@thdxr See sso.tax - Add the offenders!

@thdxr But how will I make money on my dinky app if I don’t charge a 7000% markup for the enterprise plan????

@thdxr but workos charges per sso connection :(

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@thdxr 100% never made sense to me. I have worked at 4 person startup and we had SSO from day 1, just annoyed us when had to get enterprise for it to work on other places.

@thdxr not my site but i like that it exists
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@thdxr The SSO tax is especially wild when their company value is “customers first” …

@thdxr The pattern seems to be oidc sso is free, but scim (groups) is not.

Makes sense and is a good compromise.

@thdxr I’m torn.

On one hand I like it when enterprise plans keep enterprise feature like that in an enterprise only plan.

Unless you mean like oauth/2fa. Then yea need that on base plans for sure

Scim stuff can be enterprise only I think and chargeable in that context

@thdxr If they didn’t then why would an enterprise be forced to switch to API pricing with Anthropic instead of giving everyone a 200 dollar plan and saving literal 10s of millions.

@thdxr Agreed SSO should just be for everyone but unfortunately large companies care about this more and thus makes this one way to ask for more money.

TLDR: just wish people paid fairly for good softwares when they can

@thdxr Would you say the same for all enterprise features?

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@thdxr tbf most auth provider do that, so if you're running an app you probably don't have a choice

@thdxr Yep it's really frustrating for what we want to offer but just can't.

@thdxr always been the case in software, people paid enterprise money for preemptive multitasking in 90s

@thdxr who's still paywalling sso after this week tho

@thdxr I refuse to use any product that gates SSO behind a paywall.

@thdxr sso behind enterprise pricing is a security tax, every plan should ship it

@thdxr SSO and SCIM

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@thdxr SSO? Anthropic doesn't even offer basic MFA for non Team/Enterprise subs (except obviously if you login via Google, but then it's Google's MFA)

@thdxr Shopify had that for the longest time! If you wanted SSO for your business, you had to pay them the Enterprise rate of the day, sometimes $2000/month depending on which way the wind blows! Always blew my mind those artificial barriers the accountants dream up to make money.

@thdxr 100% this, security shouldn't be a pricing tier

@thdxr no, don't spoil my business angle! 😭🤣

@thdxr It's one of the best ways to charge more to entreprise than to customers for the exact same product.

@thdxr scim also. almost everyone gates scim as if its some alien tech

@thdxr seems bad now? but before it was totally fine?

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@thdxr Worst dark pattern there is. Completely predatory.

@thdxr SSOが上位プラン限定だと、小さなチームほど退職時のアカウント整理を手作業で抱えることになりますね。人数に関係なく、安全に使い続けるための機能は選べるようにしてほしいです。

@thdxr sso tax is wild

@thdxr yep. weekend project, not a premium feature

@thdxr sso tax is the fastest way to make a customer start shopping for alternatives

@thdxr agents need it more than we do at this point

@thdxr sso.tax

@thdxr how we run our business is how we run our business plz don’t comment so specifically in public on @AvgSandboxCo

@thdxrappening at the auth provider level too. Clerk used to include unlimited SSO connections in a flat paid add-on. Earlier this year they switched to per-connection pricing: one included, then $75/month for each additional customer SSO connection. Makes offering SSO to everyone more expensive before you’ve even priced your own product.

@thdxr funny part is the same vendors that gate sso behind enterprise will send you a security questionnaire asking if you enforce sso everywhere