i love @grok @bot

i do not love its rate limits

here is a simple way to get more usage out of it:

install your coding agents on Grok Bot's virtual machine

Codex, Cursor, Grok Build, Antigravity, etc

then, install @herdrdev to manage those CLI agent sessions

now give Grok CLI agents for anything more than conversational tasks

your rate limits for Grok Bot will only be coordination and prompting, rather than the coding tasks themselves

and you can use those @cursor_ai and Grok Build limits AND crank on Grok Bot without getting rate limited as fast

Aug 30, 2026 · 12:45 AM UTC

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📌 YouTube version if you prefer:
youtu.be/5YWzevU2d1Q
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credit to @jethrojones for teaching me @herdrdev

I run most coding sessions in the cloud and thought Herdr wouldn’t be useful to me…turns out it is very useful at helping agents manage their coding sessions!
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Replying to @theaaron
@theaarons@bot @herdrdevr and CLI agents on the shared VM is working for you. Grok Bot includes its own separate usage pool from regular Grok or Cursor plans, with weekly tracking visible in the app settings. The persistent cloud computer with terminal support is designed for exactly these kinds of tool installs and handoffs.
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Replying to @theaaron
@theaaron @grok @bot @herdrdev this is by default anyway being done if you subscribed via cursor. all coding tasks use cursor cloud agents

idk why this over-engineered setup on top should be needed
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@luishXYZ @grok @bot @herdrdev because they are trying to combine the backends of all the cursor + grok +grok bot and building the plane while they are flying it

which is understandable, and why methods like this are valuable
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Replying to @theaaron
@theaaron @grok @bot @herdrdev 🫡🫡🫡🫡
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Replying to @OriSilver
@OriSilver @grok @bot @herdrdev let me know how it helps your rate limits
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@theaaron @grok @bot @herdrdev insanely helpful aaron!
i use herdr locally, so didnt think of using it inside grok bot's vm
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Replying to @gurungbuilds
@gurungbuilds @grok @bot @herdrdev thank you!

i had the opposite approach: people were showing me @herdrdev but i dismissed it because i keep most coding agents running on VMs...turns out i was looking at the problem wrong!
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@theaaron @grok @bot @herdrdev You don't need Herdr for that. Just create a bot, use it as a wrapper, and say, "for everything that comes into your purview, use this CLI." I've created Codex, anthropic, and cursor bots this way.
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Replying to @AedmarSkyjarn
@AedmarSkyjarn @grok @bot @herdrdev True, Grok Bot doesn’t need @herdrdev

But I want it to use Herdr so it’s easy for me to see and track its terminal sessions
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@theaaron @grok @bot @herdrdev that's a solid work-around, but it doesn't address the underlying issue: why do developers have to choose between a bot with decent functionality and another that doesn't exist yet?
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Replying to @adelbucetta
@adelbucetta @grok @bot @herdrdev if you’re a developer in 2026, you don’t have to choose

just build your own
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Replying to @theaaron
@theaaron @grok @bot @herdrdev Why not just use cursor at that point
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@theaaron @grok @bot @herdrdev Yep this is exactly how I’m running it. Avoid its limits and use it to task out stuff to others and just manage the day to day. It’s amazing and game changer.
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Replying to @ChetisLove
@ChetisLove @grok @bot @herdrdev using CLI agents on it's VM or how exactly?
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Replying to @theaaron
@theaaron @grok @bot @herdrdev I do this except I use Hermes Agents as the workers for anything involving tool calls.

I doubt it's optimized for maximum token efficiency, but the Hermes Agents learn skills and memories that create long-term value.
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Replying to @CalebWachter
@CalebWachter @grok @bot @herdrdev Yes, so do I

But no mobile app from Hermes yet
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@theaaron @grok @bot @herdrdev Been doing this for weeks it does not do it reliably the virtual computer keeps restarting the terminals done restart I use herdr in it already. Sounds good in practice it does not work long term reliably
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Replying to @GregGaskell
@GregGaskell @grok @bot @herdrdev Works great for me

I put it on my tailnet which may be helping with that
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Replying to @theaaron
@theaaron @grok @bot @herdrdev Thanks! I will try this. I'm out of usage right now, but tomorrow! 😀
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Replying to @pappapez
@pappapez @grok @bot @herdrdev ha! you are exactly the kind of person who can benefit from it then
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@theaaron @grok @bot @herdrdev Awesome idea! I installed Hermes on my Grok Bot computer today and was super excited to see it was working! Now installed Grok as well and told the bot to use those suckers as its coding workhorses. Building some sample web pages now as a test 😄 Grok Bot is insane!!
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Replying to @modomango
@modomango @grok @bot @herdrdev Yes, this is exactly it

And Grok Build CLI is awesome, no one talks about it
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Replying to @theaaron
Now that we've all experienced how quickly Grok Bot usage gets burned through, I have a clever way to share the heavy lifting during the initial setup/experimentation phase so we reserve the precious @bot resource until we're ready.
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Replying to @FrederickPaiSu
@FrederickPaiSu @grok @bot @herdrdev Great solution to the same burning problem I had!

Grok Build CLI is amazing
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Replying to @theaaron
@theaaron @grok @bot @herdrdev But the work is the actual VM right? How much can you do in that vm?
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Replying to @cesm35
@cesmdev @grok @bot @herdrdev Here ya go:
FYI for those who were wondering the specs on your Grok @bot VM Linux device:

8 CPU cores, Intel Xeon

16 GB RAM

128 GB disk

Debian 13, Linux, 64-bit

One computer, each bot gets its own screen
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Replying to @theaaron
@theaaron @grok @bot @herdrdev My only concern with this - does herdr need controlling using GUI?

If so, presumably that uses more rate than a CLI tool?

(I’m guessing it takes screenshots, analyses the image, gives mouse instructions - more effort than CLI control)
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@_harryjohn @grok @bot @herdrdev GUI is only for human to view, Grok Bot uses it via Herdr’s socket

Good question though!
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