Gone Girl was such a wild movie that I watched it twice in theaters in two days, then immediately read the book.
And finally, I got Gillian Flynn to tell me how she wrote the book and made the movie. Her stories are dark, character-driven portrayals of evil, so I was surprised bout how much fun she has while writing. Of all the interviews I've done, she's the writer who talked most about having fun.
So this conversation is about how she writes, brings characters to life, and especially how she wrote Gone Girl.
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Timestamps:
1:03 How to write suspenseful stories
5:16: The setting needs to be intentional
8:24 Why we crave dark stories
13:23 Female evil
20:27 What makes for a good character?
24:35 How to unstuck yourself
30:56 Beating writer's block
40:04 Mistakes screenwriters make
42:59 Lessons from TV writing
45:05 Horror movies
46:20 Naming characters
51:02 Are we all performing now?
56:23 Writing books vs. movies
1:07:23 How to start a book
1:15:33 Gillian's advice for writers
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Some highlights:
1) Better to have great characters and a mediocre plot than a great plot and mediocre characters.
2) The idea that your characters need to be likable is nonsense. Rather, the most important test for a main character is this: “Am I interested in knowing more about this character?”
3) To write monstrous behavior, start with an ugly impulse in yourself and amplify it 20x. What happens when you feed that impulse? Justify it? Organize your life around it? Answering these questions can give your characters an interior life beyond the label of "evil."
4) When you’re stuck, write three pages without trying to make them belong in the book. It can be a childhood scene, a letter they wrote, a furious rant in a character's voice, or anything like that. What matters is that you insist it's only an exercise so you can unstuck yourself. This is where the Cool Girl monologue in Gone Girl came from.
5) When making the Gone Girl movie, David Fincher would ask her: "Why is this happening here?” Sometimes, the act of explaining would reveal the scene's purpose and help her improve it. And other times, she'd see the scene wasn't necessary.
6) You don't need to write the beginning of the book first. Gillian avoids saying "okay now this is the first sentence" because doing so carries so much pressure. So once she's done with the book, she goes back to the front of the book and writes the beginning.
7) When you find a writer you're jealous of, read their work carefully. For Gillian, it was the work of Kate Atkinson, whose writing made her cry and laugh in the first three pages, so she went back and asked: “How did this magic happen?”
8) It's fine if people don't like your book. What's actually a problem is indifference. She says: “People have come up to me at readings, slammed the book down, and said: 'I hate this book. I'm only here because book club made me.' For me, that reaction is great because it means you thought about it. I’d much rather have that than someone saying, 'I liked it; it’s good,' and then never thinking about it again. I don’t want a book that just washes over you and then is forgotten."
9) Choose settings that take away the kinds of freedom your characters want. In Gone Girl, Amy constantly wanted to reinvent herself. Placing the story in a small town made that impossible and sowed the seeds for all that happens in the story.
10) Gillian doesn't know how her stories will end when she starts writing them. But once she finishes a draft, she goes back and places clues that add suspense to the story and integrity to the ending. She says: “If you go back and trace everything, you’ll see I earned it.”
To watch the full conversation, check out the video below. If you'd rather watch on YouTube or listen on Apple / Spotify, check out the replies.
Enjoy!
And finally, I got Gillian Flynn to tell me how she wrote the book and made the movie. Her stories are dark, character-driven portrayals of evil, so I was surprised bout how much fun she has while writing. Of all the interviews I've done, she's the writer who talked most about having fun.
So this conversation is about how she writes, brings characters to life, and especially how she wrote Gone Girl.
— —
Timestamps:
1:03 How to write suspenseful stories
5:16: The setting needs to be intentional
8:24 Why we crave dark stories
13:23 Female evil
20:27 What makes for a good character?
24:35 How to unstuck yourself
30:56 Beating writer's block
40:04 Mistakes screenwriters make
42:59 Lessons from TV writing
45:05 Horror movies
46:20 Naming characters
51:02 Are we all performing now?
56:23 Writing books vs. movies
1:07:23 How to start a book
1:15:33 Gillian's advice for writers
— —
Some highlights:
1) Better to have great characters and a mediocre plot than a great plot and mediocre characters.
2) The idea that your characters need to be likable is nonsense. Rather, the most important test for a main character is this: “Am I interested in knowing more about this character?”
3) To write monstrous behavior, start with an ugly impulse in yourself and amplify it 20x. What happens when you feed that impulse? Justify it? Organize your life around it? Answering these questions can give your characters an interior life beyond the label of "evil."
4) When you’re stuck, write three pages without trying to make them belong in the book. It can be a childhood scene, a letter they wrote, a furious rant in a character's voice, or anything like that. What matters is that you insist it's only an exercise so you can unstuck yourself. This is where the Cool Girl monologue in Gone Girl came from.
5) When making the Gone Girl movie, David Fincher would ask her: "Why is this happening here?” Sometimes, the act of explaining would reveal the scene's purpose and help her improve it. And other times, she'd see the scene wasn't necessary.
6) You don't need to write the beginning of the book first. Gillian avoids saying "okay now this is the first sentence" because doing so carries so much pressure. So once she's done with the book, she goes back to the front of the book and writes the beginning.
7) When you find a writer you're jealous of, read their work carefully. For Gillian, it was the work of Kate Atkinson, whose writing made her cry and laugh in the first three pages, so she went back and asked: “How did this magic happen?”
8) It's fine if people don't like your book. What's actually a problem is indifference. She says: “People have come up to me at readings, slammed the book down, and said: 'I hate this book. I'm only here because book club made me.' For me, that reaction is great because it means you thought about it. I’d much rather have that than someone saying, 'I liked it; it’s good,' and then never thinking about it again. I don’t want a book that just washes over you and then is forgotten."
9) Choose settings that take away the kinds of freedom your characters want. In Gone Girl, Amy constantly wanted to reinvent herself. Placing the story in a small town made that impossible and sowed the seeds for all that happens in the story.
10) Gillian doesn't know how her stories will end when she starts writing them. But once she finishes a draft, she goes back and places clues that add suspense to the story and integrity to the ending. She says: “If you go back and trace everything, you’ll see I earned it.”
To watch the full conversation, check out the video below. If you'd rather watch on YouTube or listen on Apple / Spotify, check out the replies.
Enjoy!
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Neil Strauss has written multiple NYT best sellers. He writes three drafts for three different audiences:
1) Yourself
"The first draft is that vomit draft. You get it all out there, and no one's gonna ever see that."
"So when you're writing with vulnerability, you actually can because no one will see it."
2) The Reader
"The second draft is for the reader. You make the second draft, and you now make it readable."
"There are things that feel really interesting and important, and let's say vulnerable to you, but they're not to other people... And then you have to remove those."
3) The Hater
"The third draft is for the hater, the critic. I find, that all these questions of what are people gonna think... save that this draft."
"As Kevin Hart said, 'take the bullets out of the gun.' So whatever you might get criticized for, you could already have the answers within the book."
1) Yourself
"The first draft is that vomit draft. You get it all out there, and no one's gonna ever see that."
"So when you're writing with vulnerability, you actually can because no one will see it."
2) The Reader
"The second draft is for the reader. You make the second draft, and you now make it readable."
"There are things that feel really interesting and important, and let's say vulnerable to you, but they're not to other people... And then you have to remove those."
3) The Hater
"The third draft is for the hater, the critic. I find, that all these questions of what are people gonna think... save that this draft."
"As Kevin Hart said, 'take the bullets out of the gun.' So whatever you might get criticized for, you could already have the answers within the book."
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David Perell retweeted
"If you have discipline and no talent, you're way better off than if you have giant talent and no discipline."
Steven Pressfield thinks that you can't get through a 400-hour first draft without discipline:
"If you're gonna write something that's gonna take two and a half or ull time, you know?"
"A first draft is four hundred hours, which when I heard that I thought that's about right."
"That's ten forty hour weeks, and nobody can work a forty hour week as a writer. You know, you can't do that. So it's more like twenty hour weeks for a first draft when you're gonna do 10 drafts or something like that."
"How are you gonna do that without discipline? It's everything."
Steven Pressfield thinks that you can't get through a 400-hour first draft without discipline:
"If you're gonna write something that's gonna take two and a half or ull time, you know?"
"A first draft is four hundred hours, which when I heard that I thought that's about right."
"That's ten forty hour weeks, and nobody can work a forty hour week as a writer. You know, you can't do that. So it's more like twenty hour weeks for a first draft when you're gonna do 10 drafts or something like that."
"How are you gonna do that without discipline? It's everything."
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"Suspense is the central thing in our lives. We don't know what's gonna happen to us an hour from now, a day from now."
"We live always on the edge, and we've put it out of our mind because otherwise life wouldn't be very tolerable. But it is the essence of our lives."
-Dean Koontz
"We live always on the edge, and we've put it out of our mind because otherwise life wouldn't be very tolerable. But it is the essence of our lives."
-Dean Koontz
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"The character can carry the entire novel."
Dean Koontz binged 34 John D. MacDonald books in 38 days fresh out of college. This is what he learned:
"He'd wanna tell you about this character, so he'd just stop. And he'd write three to five pages about this character."
"The I went, 'what is this? I wanna read the rest of the story.' And then by the time I got to the end of page five of the character stuff when the story started again, I actually was saying, 'No! I wanna know more about this character.'"
"Kurt Vonnegut actually said about John D. MacDonald, if thousands of years from now, some alien race came to Earth, and they stumbled across the work of John D. MacDonald buried under the ruin of a house, it would be the greatest finding they could ever make to understand how the human race works."
Dean Koontz binged 34 John D. MacDonald books in 38 days fresh out of college. This is what he learned:
"He'd wanna tell you about this character, so he'd just stop. And he'd write three to five pages about this character."
"The I went, 'what is this? I wanna read the rest of the story.' And then by the time I got to the end of page five of the character stuff when the story started again, I actually was saying, 'No! I wanna know more about this character.'"
"Kurt Vonnegut actually said about John D. MacDonald, if thousands of years from now, some alien race came to Earth, and they stumbled across the work of John D. MacDonald buried under the ruin of a house, it would be the greatest finding they could ever make to understand how the human race works."
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David Perell retweeted
"48 Laws of Power" author Robert Greene to young writers:
"don't touch AI. don't even go near it"
"don't touch AI. don't even go near it"
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Long gone are the days where authors could just write and let everything else take care of itself. Jodi Picoult explains:
"Nobody can sit in their ivory tower anymore and just write books and expect them to find their way to the masses. Doesn't work that way."
"There's a lot if you've got wheat, you gotta make sure people know you got wheat."
"Nobody can sit in their ivory tower anymore and just write books and expect them to find their way to the masses. Doesn't work that way."
"There's a lot if you've got wheat, you gotta make sure people know you got wheat."
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Most children (and adults) can identify 100+ logos and nearly 0 native plant species
This is not healthy for society
Native wildlife roots us in our place and we should treat it with such reverence
If we do not root ourselves in the land it is very easy to lose our ourselves
This is not healthy for society
Native wildlife roots us in our place and we should treat it with such reverence
If we do not root ourselves in the land it is very easy to lose our ourselves
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Gustave Flaubert was a method writer.
Robert Greene says that's what makes Madame Bovary so alive:
"Flaubert was this creature of the right word, and he would sometimes spend three days trying to figure out the right word for this one sentence."
"He gets very much caught up he wrote Madame Bovary, he was, like, literally becoming Madame Bovary. He becomes the characters that he writes about."
"But at the same time, he's a very careful, conscientious writer who's pouring over every sentence. They're not contradictory. The two go together."
"But because he's inside her world and he's a very disciplined writer who focuses on how language can create a world, he's able to bring the two together.
That's sort of the dance that the greatest writers go through."
Robert Greene says that's what makes Madame Bovary so alive:
"Flaubert was this creature of the right word, and he would sometimes spend three days trying to figure out the right word for this one sentence."
"He gets very much caught up he wrote Madame Bovary, he was, like, literally becoming Madame Bovary. He becomes the characters that he writes about."
"But at the same time, he's a very careful, conscientious writer who's pouring over every sentence. They're not contradictory. The two go together."
"But because he's inside her world and he's a very disciplined writer who focuses on how language can create a world, he's able to bring the two together.
That's sort of the dance that the greatest writers go through."
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"Nobody thinks they're very good at it while they're doing it."
Michael Pollan has been writing for 40 years. He's written multiple best-sellers. And yet:
"Every time you start, every time you face that white screen, is, you know, why doesn't this come more easily?"
"There's a 's hard, it's not for me, or I'm not good at it, or I'm not the right person. But it's hard for everybody, to one degree or another."
"And I still struggle, you know, every time I sit down to write, play games with myself, how much I have to produce before I can go have a snack."
"So just because you find it difficult doesn't mean you're not born to do it."
Michael Pollan has been writing for 40 years. He's written multiple best-sellers. And yet:
"Every time you start, every time you face that white screen, is, you know, why doesn't this come more easily?"
"There's a 's hard, it's not for me, or I'm not good at it, or I'm not the right person. But it's hard for everybody, to one degree or another."
"And I still struggle, you know, every time I sit down to write, play games with myself, how much I have to produce before I can go have a snack."
"So just because you find it difficult doesn't mean you're not born to do it."
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Robert Greene is rereading Dostoevsky to make sense of America today:
"I was reading Demons. It's all about the nihilists in Russia who were kind of the starting point for the Russian revolution and a period where nihilism was in its ascendancy. And I kind of compare it to ica right now."
"He loves the marginalized in culture. He loves the prostitutes that everyone's forgotten about. He loves criminals. He literally loves them in a Christ-like way."
"Even the evil characters, the villains, he brings to life with this sort of love. That universe of not judging is an act of grace."
"I read Brothers Karamazov when I was 16. I probably didn't understand a word of it, but I was so entranced by this guy."
"I was reading Demons. It's all about the nihilists in Russia who were kind of the starting point for the Russian revolution and a period where nihilism was in its ascendancy. And I kind of compare it to ica right now."
"He loves the marginalized in culture. He loves the prostitutes that everyone's forgotten about. He loves criminals. He literally loves them in a Christ-like way."
"Even the evil characters, the villains, he brings to life with this sort of love. That universe of not judging is an act of grace."
"I read Brothers Karamazov when I was 16. I probably didn't understand a word of it, but I was so entranced by this guy."
Brothers Karamazov was Einstein’s favorite novel, a verdict he shared with Freud, Hillary Clinton, and Murakami. Dostoyevsky was Pope Francis’s favorite author. Indeed, he approvingly quoted Elder Zosima; perhaps an interesting case of art molding life. At the risk of betraying my relative shallowness and inferiority, I confess that I did not love it.
Written in the shadow of the death of Dostoyevsky’s son (also Alyosha), and, more broadly, after a life of repeated tragedy, Karamazov attempts most of all to address the problem of evil in Christianity. Ivan presents a trenchant argument, asking how the suffering of children may possibly be explained given the existence of a supposedly benevolent God (Dostoyevsky collected real court cases for Ivan), culminating in Ivan’s famous return of the ticket.
The book gives some sense for how dislocating the nineteenth century must have been. The ascendant authority of science, the spread of materialist philosophy, the doctrine of evolution, the aftermath of the French revolution and its supposedly enlightened empiricism: in Karamazov, we get the feeling that finding some kind of consilience wasn’t just an abstract philosophical challenge, but a source of intense spiritual torment. If inherited tradition is no longer an adequate basis for faith, why would we rationally cleave to an apparently irrational theology? All of this was in the air: it was only two years later that Nietzsche declared God to be dead.
Perhaps demonstrating the utility of the novel as a medium, Dostoyevsky does not even attempt to solve the problem, but merely to illustrate a response, showing how individuals (Alyosha, Elder Zosima) may in the face of the inherent injustice present in the world nonetheless pursue lives of benevolence and charity: theodicy-by-example. In so doing, Dostoyevsky tacitly concedes that none of the teetering justifications expounded over the centuries can actually survive critical pressure and be defended through pure logic.
Ultimately, though, I don’t find myself being fully compelled by Dostoyevsky’s characterization of the problem or his proposed solution. As another sprawling confrontation with and attempt to reconcile the problem of evil, Grossman’s Life and Fate is maybe a useful counterpoint. Unlike Karamazov, Life and Fate shows actual people confronting great wickedness. Ikonnikov, a small but important figure, is ordered to help in the construction of a gas chamber. He refuses, with full awareness of the consequences that will ensue. The Karamazovs, by contrast, live middle class lives unvisited by greater events. Ivan has money, education, and leisure; his torment is the invention of his own mind and thus a kind of self-indulgence. Even Alyosha, the novel’s most sympathetic character, is never tested. His crisis is spiritual: there is a slightly comic kerfuffle about Zosima’s noisome corpse, which challenges his faith, but no circumstance requires him to stake his life or even his comfort.
Thus, a fundamental issue with Karamazov is that the problems of the book are on some level fake: they’re the self-inflicted derangements of febrile and dysregulated men. How much can or should we learn from the insane?
To be charitable to Dostoyevsky, we might say that he understood the spiritual dislocation of the era that later gives rise to the larger evils of totalitarianism in the twentieth, even prefiguring them in the Grand Inquisitor. (Dostoyevsky explored this theme in greater detail a few years earlier in Demons.) Camus in 1959: “The real nineteenth century prophet was Dostoevsky, not Karl Marx.” In this interpretation, the problems in Karamazov set the stage for those in Life and Fate.
Maybe. At least as a work of art, I’m not sure that this anticipation is enough to make the book stand on its own. In Karamazov, one continually wonders why the brothers don’t just pull it together. Dostoyevsky seems to transpose his own inner depths and spiritual torment onto his characters, but most people are not tortured writers, and it does not feel that the unhingedness of the characters is ever fully earned.
In attempting to address evil, Grossman’s conclusion is ostensibly similar to Dostoyevsky’s: the only resolution lies in senseless kindness. For Dostoyevsky, this message is embodied in Alyosha, who represents a kind of fervent innocence. For me, however, it’s not clear that Alyosha ever fathoms the realities and extremities of evil, and hence he’s not fully persuasive: does he even reckon with the misdeeds of his brothers?
Grossman is willing to engage head on. Far beyond gruesome newspaper anecdotes or neurotic and volatile siblings, Ikonnikov directly experiences the Holodomor in Ukraine and then the murders of the Jews. He has no patience for the kind of revolutionary ideas that animated Ivan’s contemporaries: “whenever we see [the dawn of an eternal good], the blood of old people and children is always shed.”
Alyosha believes in the Church and is willing to set aside its failures to address suffering. The book closes on his declaration that all shall rise again. That is, Alyosha does not accept the tragedy of Ilyusha, an innocent boy’s death, but rather seeks to deny and escape it. “We shall see each other and shall tell each other with joy and gladness all that has happened.”
Life and Fate flatly rejects providential resolution. The heavens may be empty, and there is no greater meaning in evil. We can simply choose (freedom the other great theme of Life and Fate) to pursue acts of charity, generosity, and comfort:
“Yes, as well as this terrible Good with a capital ‘G’, there is everyday human kindness. The kindness of an old woman carrying a piece of bread to a prisoner, the kindness of a soldier allowing a wounded enemy to drink from his water-flask, the kindness of youth towards age, the kindness of a peasant hiding an old Jew in his loft. The kindness of a prison guard who risks his own liberty to pass on letters written by a prisoner not to his ideological comrades, but to his wife and mother.”
These acts don’t ennoble the suffering but are instead justified on their own terms. Such altruism cannot become a catechism, as clearly lies in Alyosha’s destiny (and Karamazov was planned before Dostoyevsky's death as the first of two works); instead, our kindness must be senseless. And we should presume no salvation in adherence: Alyosha imagines a kind of sacred tutelage, but Ikonnikov is unceremoniously shot.
Karamazov doesn’t show true evil, and Dostoyevsky’s solution, such as it is, involves a kind of denial, or at least evasion through metaphysics. Grossman saw it directly, and instead argues, humanistically, that we should be kind just because.
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If Dostoyevsky came to his works by trying to understand and depict Russian society, they in turn became tapestries for others to understand national souls.
In the aftermath of WWI, Russia was the great power defined in opposition to the West. As Germany tried to rediscover its own soul in the wreckage of defeat, it looked east to Russia, and frequently to Dostoyevsky himself.
Carl Jung thought that the German people had a kind of Karamazovian quality. In particular, he believed that Christianity had disciplined them without fully transforming the impulses beneath their ostensibly civilized conduct: the “Germanic barbarian” was divided into upper and lower halves. Religion had domesticated the former while leaving the latter untamed. Waning faith consequently threatened to release forces that its authority had long restrained: “As the Christian view of the world loses its authority, the more menacingly will the ‘blond beast’ be heard prowling about in its underground prison, ready at any moment to burst out with devastating consequences. When this happens in the individual it brings about a psychological revolution, but it can also take a social form.”
Dostoyevsky was reputedly invoked on a weekly basis at Max Weber’s Sunday gatherings. At the beginning of Reflections of a Nonpolitical Man, Thomas Mann’s later-repudiated 1918 nationalist polemic, he quotes approvingly Dostoyevsky’s characterization of Germany as the “protesting Western empire”, never quite adopting or feeling at home with the inheritance of Rome. In the same year, Spengler wrote Decline of the West, and explicitly perceived in Russia a youthful vigor, primitiveness, and irrationality that contrasted with the senile high culture of the German and Western worlds. In Magic Mountain, Mann later used Clavdia Chauchat to personify the seductive dangers of Eastern (i.e. Russian) illogic.
Hermann Hesse declared that, for all their differences, Fyodor, Dmitri, Ivan, and Alyosha are actually all of one type; the Russian man. In them, he perceived that “the ideal of the Karamazov, primeval, Asiatic, and occult, is already beginning to consume the European soul”, which was leading to the downfall of Europe. In Hesse’s conception, the Russian man rejects inherited ethics and morals, and even beneficent Alyosha represents an “amoral impartiality.” Man is, Hesse says, halfway between animals and higher consciousness; the former restrained through the process of civilization and domestication. The Karamazovs represent the fraying of the ties.
Hesse proceeds, ominously, to notice that the Germans in particular are more vulnerable than any European people to the temptations of “all those evils which one may regard in different ways, but which collectively signify the Karamazov.” While he was prescient in anticipating some of what would follow, he was in the end too sanguine in his hope that the spiritual dislocation could remain limited to that. “It is possible that the whole Downfall of Europe will play itself out only inwardly, only in the souls of a generation, only in changing the meaning of worn-out symbols, in the dis-valuation of spiritual values.” Alas!
In general, it is interesting to trace the mutual obsession between Russia and Germany: how preoccupied each was with the respective supposedly corrupting influences; how urgent the question of the national soul was felt to be. Many of the analyses seem a bit contradictory—Hesse actually inverts Dostoyevsky, for whom “everything is permitted” nihilism is a Western import for which Russian Orthodoxy is the cure—but there’s a striking intensity in the attempts to apprehend.
Most of all, I’m struck by how anachronistic it all feels today: a country’s writers investigating the national soul and the nation’s fate through the lens of foreign literature.
Which novels or works of art do we use to understand our contemporary issues? Should we be using such works? Do they inform or do they mislead? Today, the US worries a lot about China, but this mostly manifests at the level of trade balances, AI policy, and military prowess. We don’t seem to worry much about the spiritual force of Chinese ideals, and for all of the policy fractiousness, China continues to import and absorb American culture with enthusiasm that is mostly undimmed. There is a genre of jeremiad and cultural analysis in the US that rhymes a little with early twentieth century German criticism, but it today tends to be much more clinical, hinging around PISA scores, smartphones, lower fertility, and not around higher aspirations and ideals as such. So, to what extent should there be analyses of the national soul? And to what extent should they connect with major novels and works of art?
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David Perell retweeted
Computers did to architecture what AI is doing to writers:
"When you had to design a building, it was this process of working on paper and sketching things out. It was like art in a way."
"At some point, it got computerized. You program it, and out comes your building." and the faucet is in a location that doesn't make any sense. The whole building is designed that way. It's a formula."
"People now don't know how to write because they depend on AI. They become lazy."
"The whole art of architecture is disintegrating because people don't know how to design and sketch anymore."
-Robert Greene
"When you had to design a building, it was this process of working on paper and sketching things out. It was like art in a way."
"At some point, it got computerized. You program it, and out comes your building." and the faucet is in a location that doesn't make any sense. The whole building is designed that way. It's a formula."
"People now don't know how to write because they depend on AI. They become lazy."
"The whole art of architecture is disintegrating because people don't know how to design and sketch anymore."
-Robert Greene
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"Now things are so expensive, and there's so much pressure to make money."
Robert Greene on why it's harder to make a living as an artist today:
"Back in the day, you could be an artist and life wasn't so expensive.
You could afford to write something a little bit d still make a little bit of money, but you could still afford your loft in New York."
"If you're a writer, how are you gonna make money? Well, you could become a professor, and that's pretty soul sucking. Or you can write books. Do you know how hard that is?"
"It's easy for me. I am so lucky. But for most writers, you get a $20,000 to $50,000 advance. I have to write the book in a year, otherwise I can't live on it. And how often do you see royalties?"
"So you have to write the book quickly, and you have to make a living. And that's what I think is making writing suffer, because it's no longer something that you can just take your time with."
Robert Greene on why it's harder to make a living as an artist today:
"Back in the day, you could be an artist and life wasn't so expensive.
You could afford to write something a little bit d still make a little bit of money, but you could still afford your loft in New York."
"If you're a writer, how are you gonna make money? Well, you could become a professor, and that's pretty soul sucking. Or you can write books. Do you know how hard that is?"
"It's easy for me. I am so lucky. But for most writers, you get a $20,000 to $50,000 advance. I have to write the book in a year, otherwise I can't live on it. And how often do you see royalties?"
"So you have to write the book quickly, and you have to make a living. And that's what I think is making writing suffer, because it's no longer something that you can just take your time with."
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Taylor Tomlinson on the key to good crowd work:
"I like to do crowd work at my live shows, but I do it in a very structured way. I usually sprinkle it throughout the show every 15 to 20 minutes."
"I ask the audience a specific question that is related to the hour. So it's t I do wanna know. I think that's kind of the key to crowd work."
"If it goes weird, I'll deflect or I'll make it about me. I never want anyone to feel bad or regret talking to me."
"Sometimes it goes somewhere. Sometimes it doesn't. It's why I'm so meticulous about writing out my set and having clear transitions so that I can get back into the hour really seamlessly."
"I like to do crowd work at my live shows, but I do it in a very structured way. I usually sprinkle it throughout the show every 15 to 20 minutes."
"I ask the audience a specific question that is related to the hour. So it's t I do wanna know. I think that's kind of the key to crowd work."
"If it goes weird, I'll deflect or I'll make it about me. I never want anyone to feel bad or regret talking to me."
"Sometimes it goes somewhere. Sometimes it doesn't. It's why I'm so meticulous about writing out my set and having clear transitions so that I can get back into the hour really seamlessly."
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@david_perell I desperately need you to get him on How I Write (and then let me cohost 🙂↕️)
Ben Affleck reveals he writes Python, understands convolutional neural networks, worked extensively with GPUs, and used his celebrity status to get private looks at Google and OpenAI’s video models
“I’ve always been kind of into computers since I was young. Then, when film alog film to digital, I became more interested in that aspect of it. The visual-effects workflow for many years has included machine learning, so I can write pretty shitty Python scripts and stuff like that.
“With convolutional neural networks, which were the precursors to what the transformer can do, which is much more computation simultaneously, you would do things like look at what’s called a tensor. That’s the numerical translation of a visual image in numbers, like the batch number, the frame number and the red, green and blue values of each pixel in each frame. It’s just that simple. That numeric is called a tensor.
“You’d use a convolutional neural network to identify patterns that reveal what’s called edge detection or feature extraction, which is identifying patterns well enough to know, this is where the window ledge is, so we can more easily take the green-screen image out and replace it with something.
“That was familiar to me early on because, prior to Artists Equity, I had a small visual-effects company. I’ve worked with GPUs a lot too. The visual-effects guys said, ‘Hey, you should see. There are a couple: Google and this other company, OpenAI, are doing really interesting stuff with transformers in video.’
“I’ve learned that I can actually just call up and go, ‘Hey, it’s Ben Affleck. Can I come see what you’re doing?’ Sometimes people say yes, to my astonishment.”
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"People have forgotten about stand up, the actual art of it."
This is what Mark Normand told me about how comedy has changed:
"It's a bittersweet thing because before, you had the industry. When's David Letterman gonna put me on? When's The Tonight Show gonna put me on? You ustry, but there was a lot less work. You can do the same hour for ten years."
"Now it's, I gotta cut a clip. I gotta tweet. I gotta post something. I gotta write about the news. I gotta write my own act. I gotta do a podcast. I gotta do another guy's podcast. I gotta go on the road."
"Now you can make your own career, but you're gonna do a lot more work."
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This is what Mark Normand told me about how comedy has changed:
"It's a bittersweet thing because before, you had the industry. When's David Letterman gonna put me on? When's The Tonight Show gonna put me on? You ustry, but there was a lot less work. You can do the same hour for ten years."
"Now it's, I gotta cut a clip. I gotta tweet. I gotta post something. I gotta write about the news. I gotta write my own act. I gotta do a podcast. I gotta do another guy's podcast. I gotta go on the road."
"Now you can make your own career, but you're gonna do a lot more work."
@marknorm
Conan O'Brien exposes the brutal truth: everyday internet creators have completely destroyed the late-night TV monopoly
"Now you're competing with... hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of millions of people are making funny videos"
"NBC in particular capitalized on it... you you have Jack Paar, then you have Johnny Carson... and it's a monopoly... and it's a giant machine that fires out cash"
"HBO, Cinemax, these other things are coming up... it's a little like Detroit and automobiles. Like, the things just started to change"
"For years we were working really hard to do something innovative and creative at night. Now you're competing with, how many people in America are posting videos every day, or worldwide?"
"If you do the math, nine of them are going to be one of the funniest things you've ever seen. Those come out every day. That's what you're competing against."
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Mark Normand on the difference between Larry David and Seinfeld:
"Larry has a darker bend. He's a little more sex, race, Judaism, religion. He'll go deeper into that stuff."
"You see it on his show. He's got shows about Nazis, and there's one episode where his shoes get muddy, aust museum and takes the old shoes, which is hilarious, but Seinfeld would never do that."
"Seinfeld's more like zoning in on minutiae."
"He has a great one where he's out to dinner as a double date, him and his wife, some other guy and his wife. And the other guy goes, 'I'll get the check.' And he goes, 'Wow. Thank you. Thank you, Bob.' And the wife goes, 'Well, aren't you gonna thank me?' And he's like, 'Why would I thank you? It's his money.'"
"Larry has a darker bend. He's a little more sex, race, Judaism, religion. He'll go deeper into that stuff."
"You see it on his show. He's got shows about Nazis, and there's one episode where his shoes get muddy, aust museum and takes the old shoes, which is hilarious, but Seinfeld would never do that."
"Seinfeld's more like zoning in on minutiae."
"He has a great one where he's out to dinner as a double date, him and his wife, some other guy and his wife. And the other guy goes, 'I'll get the check.' And he goes, 'Wow. Thank you. Thank you, Bob.' And the wife goes, 'Well, aren't you gonna thank me?' And he's like, 'Why would I thank you? It's his money.'"
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