Most animals are people in the ways that matter. They have personalities and a subjective experience of the world.
Doing calculus, or putting on clothes is not what makes someone a someone. Being a unique individual with their own thoughts is what makes someone a someone.
Doing calculus, or putting on clothes is not what makes someone a someone. Being a unique individual with their own thoughts is what makes someone a someone.
cetaceans are very obviously “people” and sapient to a degree indistinguishable from humans, and this is basically scientific consensus at this point.Community noteWhile cetaceans show advanced cognition like self-recognition in some species and complex sociality, claims they are “people” sapient indistinguishably from humans are not scientific consensus and remain contested.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cetacean_…
sciencedirect.com/science/articl…
spiegel.de/international/…
bbc.com/news/world-171…
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As far as animal rights activists go vegans are by far the most polite.
Meat eaters will threaten to kill you if you cause an animal they find cute mild distress.
Meat eaters will threaten to kill you if you cause an animal they find cute mild distress.
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Like obviously this is the internet and you can find aggressive people but this has nothing to do with veganism.
I’ve looked at the comments from a lot of justice movements and I don’t see a unique level of impoliteness coming from vegans.
Pro life vs pro choice. They polite?
I’ve looked at the comments from a lot of justice movements and I don’t see a unique level of impoliteness coming from vegans.
Pro life vs pro choice. They polite?
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Dog and cat people are the same. Horse people too.
Vegans are comparatively docile.
And take a moment to understand the vegans perspective. You are defending the rape and murder of beings we care about. Often times you laugh at animal suffering. Vegans mostly just take it.
Vegans are comparatively docile.
And take a moment to understand the vegans perspective. You are defending the rape and murder of beings we care about. Often times you laugh at animal suffering. Vegans mostly just take it.
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Non vegan moral reasoning in a nutshell
@baselessassert How tasty is the dog and how tasty is the tofu
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Do you think toga and the thousands of people who liked this genuinely believe vegans think whites are superior and minorities and animals belong in some inferior category?
I don’t have a good theory of mind of these people. I have to assume they know they are lying about vegans
I don’t have a good theory of mind of these people. I have to assume they know they are lying about vegans
White vegans rly be showin they ass on here with that shit 😭 “yeah man i believe minorities are 1:1 with animals but im not a white supremacist bro trust me”
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People don’t like to be reminded that they share the same bigotry they despise in others.
It’s offensive to compare humans and animals because?
Animals are less intelligent
Don’t look like us
Don’t share our genes
Don’t share our language
These are all bigoted reasons.
It’s offensive to compare humans and animals because?
Animals are less intelligent
Don’t look like us
Don’t share our genes
Don’t share our language
These are all bigoted reasons.
I agree with like 80% of what vegans have to say about the meat industry and its ethical and ecological implications but this equating animals with minorities thing they do is never going to do anything but harm their message
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Non vegans view saving animals the same way they view salvaging a TV.
As an object that can be used as entertainment or resources.
The vegan mind cannot understand this because we view animals as individuals with inherent value. The non vegan will always seem sociopathic to us.
As an object that can be used as entertainment or resources.
The vegan mind cannot understand this because we view animals as individuals with inherent value. The non vegan will always seem sociopathic to us.
En Inglaterra, unos bomberos rescataron a 18 lechones de un incendio. Meses después, la granjera les agradeció con salchichas elaboradas con la carne de algunos de los mismos animales que habían salvado.
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This is probably gonna be my last post on this topic because people don’t have the cognitive capacity to follow the conversation.
But no vegan supports harming cats. The vegan position is that we should use technology to create a meat free alternative thats proven healthy.
But no vegan supports harming cats. The vegan position is that we should use technology to create a meat free alternative thats proven healthy.
@RaidenFan404 @baselessassert @melvv145 The cat doesnt care so it is about your own personal feelings at the end of the day. Factory farming is disgusting, yes, and I'm vegan myself because of that but again, the cat does not care, just like it doesn't care about the birds and rodents it kills either
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People are actually not capable of following the conversation. They will just repeat “cats are carnivores”
And by people I mean every meat eater and about 75 percent of vegans.
So it’s actually a waste of time. Choose your battles.
And by people I mean every meat eater and about 75 percent of vegans.
So it’s actually a waste of time. Choose your battles.
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Out of all the arguments against vegan pets this is by far the dumbest.
The logical conclusion of this is letting your dog eat cats and bite children.
Everyone imposes their morality on their pets.
The logical conclusion of this is letting your dog eat cats and bite children.
Everyone imposes their morality on their pets.
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Palm oil is in many processed foods. It has nothing to do with veganism. Vegan sources of protein like tofu have no palm oil. I’ve been vegan 10 years and I almost never eat palm oil.
But let’s take a look at what’s driving deforestation.
But let’s take a look at what’s driving deforestation.
Sorry not sorry but I vehemently think that Western vegans can never assume the higher moral ground for not consuming animals, when most vegan products rely on palm oil and palm oil plantations contribute to massive deforestation and fires that kill so many wildlife in Indonesia.
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