meh the only good point is the oil smoke point

the others are only effects not causes, or just not true, i have developed from first principles a large cut stir fry from frozen vegetable technique that comes out perfectly
为什么只有中国人炒菜,欧美人却几乎不炒菜?他们没锅吗?

先说结论:不是他们没锅,是他们炒不起。

炒菜这件事,看似简单,其实是一整套农业、能源、社会结构共同撑起来的。缺了哪一条,你都只能老老实实炖和烤。

第一个原因藏在历史里的燃料账。

中国古代人口密度远超欧洲,人均林地极少。一家五口做饭,柴火就那么多,烧完了就得走几里地去拾。你舍得把一锅菜炖上一个时辰吗?舍不得。炒菜的本质就是用最短的时间、最少的燃料把食物弄熟。铁锅烧热,油下去,菜切得薄薄的,颠两下就出锅。整个过程三五分钟,省柴、省时、省事。

欧洲不一样。中世纪欧洲森林覆盖率高,烧柴不心疼。所以他们敢用壁炉烤整只猪,敢炖一大锅汤从中午炖到晚上。燃料多,时间就不是成本。炒菜这种“抠门”的烹饪方式,在欧洲一开始就没必要。

第二个原因,是地里长出来的东西不一样。

中国农业以种植为主,主食是米面,蔬菜种类多,肉是奢侈品。你有一把青菜、几片肉,怎么弄?炖一锅水,菜烂了肉柴了。炒,是唯一能保留蔬菜脆嫩、肉片滑嫩的办法。而且炒菜可以一锅出,菜和肉混着炒,节省食材,下饭。

欧洲农业是农牧混合。大片草地养牛羊,主食是面包,菜是土豆、洋葱、胡萝卜。一块牛排,你拿炒锅炒试试?炒出来又老又硬。烤肉和炖肉才是对付大块肉的正确方式。他们没有“切薄片炒”的烹饪冲动,因为他们切的是整块的肉。

第三个原因,是油。

炒菜必须用烟点高的油。花生油、菜籽油、豆油,这些烟点都在两百度以上,烧到冒烟都不容易分解。欧洲传统用橄榄油和黄油,橄榄油烟点低,烧到冒烟就开始发苦,黄油更不用说,一烧就焦。你拿橄榄油炒菜,炒出来的东西一股糊味。所以地中海沿岸的人用橄榄油拌沙拉、蘸面包,就是不炒菜。

第四个原因,是吃法。

中国是合餐制。一家人围桌坐,菜摆中间,筷子伸进去。这种吃法要求菜必须切好、小块、容易夹。炒菜天然满足这个需求。欧洲是分餐制。每个人盘子里放一块肉、一勺配菜。主菜是烤的或炖的,配菜是煮的或生的。炒菜这种“混在一起”的形态,跟分餐制格格不入。

第五个原因,也是最容易被忽略的——锅本身。

炒菜必须用铁锅,而且要圆底、薄壁、能颠。这种锅需要成熟的铸铁技术。中国在战国时期就掌握了铸铁技术,铁锅普及得早。欧洲长期用的是陶锅和铜锅,铸铁技术起步晚。没有铁锅,炒菜就无从谈起。你用陶锅炒菜,锅还没热透,菜已经糊了。

但话说回来,欧美人真的不炒吗?

其实不是。这几年炒菜在欧美越来越流行,尤其是健康饮食风潮起来之后,少油快炒被当成一种“轻烹饪”方式。问题是,他们炒的东西跟你不一样。他们炒的是芦笋、蘑菇、虾仁,用黄油或橄榄油,小火慢炒。这跟中国厨房里那种大火爆炒、油烟四起、铁锅翻飞的场面,完全是两码事。

所以问题的答案很简单。不是欧美人不会炒,是他们的历史、地理、农业、能源结构,没有把他们推向炒菜这条路。中国人炒菜,是因为在这片土地上,炒是最划算、最合理、最能把日子过下去的选择。

你说,如果中国人也像欧洲人一样有大片牧场、烧不完的木头、不心疼燃料的厨房——我们今天还会炒菜吗?
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