The most important question is whether #Intel #CoyoteCove / #PantherCove has inherited this ZMM issue from previous *Cove architectures; if not, that represents a significant SIMD advantage over #AMD #Zen6’s 4-port FPU

Intel doesn’t need mindshare tbh, they need CCG making money so I don’t know the difference is huge for them. AMD has a lot more to prove or uphold in this sense. But I agree on the ram and socket, AMD did right by getting boards out, it’s literally since AM4 been their ace in the hole. AMD has been getting away with a lot relative to what bins they can sell or how they’re setting up core configs, some of it is design limited on SKU like CCD breakdowns, but they get to milk the entire curve of yields especially with the Ryzen 5s and 7s these days. Even the 9800X3D is a pretty generic die just with cache, the cache goes a long way though clearly.

@DreadyBear @InstLatX64 Agreed

@eucliided @TheCaretaker_01 @InstLatX64 For comparable score on 9950X you’ll starting pulling similar power as it goes into PBO limits. At least part for part. 265K can get closer to 9900X but it’s also faster for the power. P-core is the stinker and is what is usually less efficient in comparisons, gets hot fast too.

@DreadyBear @TheCaretaker_01 @InstLatX64 You'll be surprised that this is more or less what I said in a later reply!!

I mean the 52C is gonna be a monster. And my guess is Intel will be able to drive more adoption for the new socket anyway, so I’m not sure it’ll be a huge issue. You say game over too, you’re looking at a really niche part of the market that isn’t even established yet really even to decide this. Of like basically mini hedt on consumer desktop platforms. The basis of a 12C beating a 16C would be a 33% or so per core improvement, I would necessarily rule that out so much as mention that some of that if not a good amount of that is gonna be N2, which Intel is also using over N3B which N3B specifically was not a great N3 family node in comparison to others offered later.

@DreadyBear @InstLatX64 With the RAM prices, only those who will buy the new hardware is gonna be limited. I wish this long term socket happened before the RAM apocalypse.

While they do not make up the mass market, the highest chip variants play a role in swaying the mindshare.

In my time with my 265K I got a lot out of the interconnect with OC and didn’t even do too much with my cores even to this extent. Notable is Intel is like 2 generations ahead in IMC as of now, AMD has needed movement which will happen in this direction, just whether or not it’s a moving target. Arrow Lake as an architecture if you strip out X3D is actually still normal faster than vanilla Zen 5 a lot of the time, and especially under OC conditions of which I consider just fixing the default config a lot of the time. Assume they BLLC to fix the direct technology win, and just don’t blow up the standard config and they could still likely outcompete AMD if they manage to get it right.

@DreadyBear @TheCaretaker_01 @InstLatX64 The uncore was mostly fixed with the 250K+ and 270K+, which are much better than initial ARL products. But ARL bad name didn't leave.

They offer much better value than most AMD parts—much better MT and comparable gaming even against X3D parts outside a 5090 at 1080p.

@eucliided @DreadyBear @InstLatX64 You can OC the E cores to 5.1 from 4.6 and get a decent jump in MT from that alone. You could also push up the P cores up to 5.5 reliably and get an extra boost as well

@TheCaretaker_01 @DreadyBear @InstLatX64 Gotta remember that we'd be pushing 300-400W at that point if not more and would need a 420mm radiator to reliably cool off that thing.

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@WindowsCentral Any word on the 18 core CPU, 5120 CUDA GPU version of the chip?

This is exclusively the fault of the pirate community btw🤷🏾‍♂️

@TaroTheCerelean Nope. It is the fault of the PS5 buyers. If you did not buy their hardware, they will have nothing to lock you out of.

@eucliided @InstLatX64 And absolutely would a dual CCD chip (Intel is making this) compete or in my opinion likely beat a comparable AMD made chip on 12C especially with AVX support and a better IMC/interconnect layout. Without HT.

@DreadyBear @InstLatX64 Also, nothing forgives them cutting off HT.

@DreadyBear @InstLatX64 Again, Intel won't have an answer if AMD drops a 12C Zen6 + 32C Zen6 part or even a 32+32C dual Zen6c part but all these are hypothetical now.

@eucliided @InstLatX64 Arrow Lake was literally smoking any relevant part in MT and the E-cores are gonna get another similar uplift which is most definitely gonna be larger than the Zen 6 base architecture. Even with the CCD size changes unless they recover 100% of the core increase it’s still iffy.

@DreadyBear @InstLatX64 Zen6 12C CCD is roughly expected to match the 16C Zen5 with 2x 8C CCD. AMD can drop a 24C Zen6 chip right against the 28C NVL and Intel will have to wait for 52C NVL to beat that.

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@RogerDatSoldier Welcome to 2013

An android CPU outperforms Playstation 5 by 269.6% in single core and 141.1% in multi core

Exynos 2600 vs AMD Ryzen Zen 2 processor in PS5

@eucliided Not at all the Processor can do pretty much everything it also has native linux terminal support

@SPYGO19726 If you take a 18 wheeler to dragstrip or a sedan to haul tonnes of load, you've got your priorities wrong.

Each has it's own place.

@Alpha72188850 @SPYGO19726 True though

@eucliided It is a smartphone my child

@SPYGO19726 The hardware may be powerful but the amount of things it can do are very limited

@eucliided Actualy the phone here costs $200 more than the Playstation 5

@SPYGO19726 *overpriced sedan

Just get a console

@eucliided @Nick_Marseil Can't help if you don't understand the thread is about GAMING retard

@Gaboswitched @Nick_Marseil The thread is about GPU price hikes. And GPUs have a lot of non gaming uses.

Can't expect that sort of understanding from abortuses like you.

Geekbench 7.1.0 for Linux AVX2

AMD EPYC 9996@4.1Ghz Single-Core Score: 2847

AMD EPYC 4545P@5.45Ghz Single-Core Score: 3064

browser.geekbench.com/v7/cpu/695262

@9550pro Each of those cores is like running at just 2 watts.