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Richard, Stephen and Jonathan look back at whatever that was last night, and we look ahead to the Chelsea match
#SAFC
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Richard, Stephen and Jonathan look back at whatever that was last night, and we look ahead to the Chelsea match
#SAFC
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Wise Men Say Podcast retweeted
It would seem Northumbria Police will not reassess their decision to impose a full bubble trip for the Tyne–Wear derby and the reality of this decison kicks in. Sunderland supporters are now expected to report to the Stadium of Light at 9am for a 2pm kick‑off at a stadium just 12 miles away. Some fans will travel from north of Tyneside down to Sunderland only to be taken straight back up again on escorted coaches, before being forced to return to Sunderland after the match.
Over recent weeks, RAWA, Sunderland AFC, Newcastle United, NUST and the FSA have worked intensively behind the scenes to offer a safer, more proportionate alternative. We produced a detailed mitigation plan covering behaviour, travel, stadium operations and policing. We asked Northumbria Police to look again at their position. We highlighted the gaps in the SAG process. We pointed out the complete absence of supporter consultation in the seven months since the last derby. Despite all of this, Northumbria Police have refused to reconsider. We still have not seen a convincing explanation for why a bubble is needed. It leaves fans wondering if this is an exercise in cost cutting and convenience.
We at RAWA are gutted for the travelling Sunderland fans who will be impacted by this, and we have no doubt that these arrangements will be reciprocated for Newcastle fans for the return fixture. Where do we go from here?
@RokerReport @WiseMenSayPod @JamesCopley_ @ThisIsWearside @SunderlandAFC @nufctrust @NUFC @KiMcGuinness @ALS_Fanzine @WiseMenSayPod
Over recent weeks, RAWA, Sunderland AFC, Newcastle United, NUST and the FSA have worked intensively behind the scenes to offer a safer, more proportionate alternative. We produced a detailed mitigation plan covering behaviour, travel, stadium operations and policing. We asked Northumbria Police to look again at their position. We highlighted the gaps in the SAG process. We pointed out the complete absence of supporter consultation in the seven months since the last derby. Despite all of this, Northumbria Police have refused to reconsider. We still have not seen a convincing explanation for why a bubble is needed. It leaves fans wondering if this is an exercise in cost cutting and convenience.
We at RAWA are gutted for the travelling Sunderland fans who will be impacted by this, and we have no doubt that these arrangements will be reciprocated for Newcastle fans for the return fixture. Where do we go from here?
@RokerReport @WiseMenSayPod @JamesCopley_ @ThisIsWearside @SunderlandAFC @nufctrust @NUFC @KiMcGuinness @ALS_Fanzine @WiseMenSayPod
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It’s not on this. Actually just get us sleeping on the buses the night before to be sure eh. Poor by the police.
ℹ️ Following a decision by the Newcastle Safety Advisory Group (SAG) and Northumbria Police, a 'bubble' coach operation will be implemented for our supporters attending St James’ Park on Sunday 6 December.
Full story: bit.ly/4zdkLMf
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Also, the #SAFC team bus was hit with missiles last season. How does this procedure protect the away fans from the same thing happening to their buses?
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Morning
MONDAY POD | With Lee Howey
Boy did #safc need that.
⚽️ Brobbey unplayable
⚽️ Talbi back in the team
⚽️ Xhaka stuff OTT?
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RAWA Statement on the Proposed Tyne–Wear Derby Bubble
A bubble match means away fans cannot get their ticket unless they travel on the official, police‑escorted coaches. No choice of transport, no freedom to plan your day. It places blanket restrictions on thousands of ordinary supporters. This would be the first bubble in the history of the Tyne–Wear derby, imposed after a fixture with only three arrests and described by police as “largely without incident.” There has been no consultation with supporters at any point in the seven months since that game.
Red and White Army is extremely concerned that such a drastic and restrictive measure has been pushed through without proper evidence, without meaningful engagement, and without any attempt to work with supporters on a proportionate plan.
The SAG minutes released this week raise serious questions. They show that concerns from the March derby were discussed, but they do not show any detailed evidence pack, incident data, intelligence summary or formal risk assessment being shared. The meeting appears to have centred almost entirely on a managed coach operation, with no alternative options formally presented, tested or compared. Supporter consultation didn’t happen before the recommendation was made, and “engagement” was only mentioned as something to do afterwards.
There is no sign of a balanced assessment of risk. Issues linked to independent travel were noted, but there is nothing to show these were weighed against the risks introduced by a compulsory coach operation. There is no distinction between different types of supporters, despite acknowledging that the vast majority behave responsibly. And there is nothing to show that targeted, less restrictive measures were even considered before deciding a bubble was the only answer.
Prior to receiving the SAG minutes (obtained via a Freedom of Information request), RAWA, the clubs, NUST and the FSA produced a detailed mitigation document. It sets out practical, proportionate steps covering behaviour, travel, stadium operations and policing. These include enhanced voluntary coach travel, managed rail options, alternative walking routes with larger buffer zones, targeted deployment at known congregation points, and strong fan‑led communications. Together, these measures offer a workable, collaborative approach that tackles the risks identified without removing supporter choice.
We have asked Northumbria Police to reassess the decision in light of these mitigations and the clear gaps in the SAG process. So far, they have refused to do so.
David Rose, Vice Chair of RAWA and Deputy CEO of the Football Supporters’ Association, said:
“A bubble is a backwards step for football policing. It strips away supporter freedoms, applies blanket restrictions to thousands of law‑abiding fans, and ignores a decade of progress in how high‑risk fixtures are managed. Supporters deserve better.”
Based on the information released to date, RAWA does not believe the case has been made that a compulsory bubble is necessary, proportionate or justified. We continue to urge Northumbria Police and partner agencies to revisit the decision and work with supporters and clubs on a safer, more balanced plan that respects both safety and supporter rights.
Supporters remain ready to work constructively with all stakeholders. What we need now is a willingness from Northumbria Police to do the same.
Supporters can read the full detail in the two documents linked below:
Joint Mitigation Proposal (RAWA, SAFC, NUFC, NUST, FSA)
RAWA Summary of SAG Minutes and Key Concerns
Please head over to our website for the full set of documents relating to the Safety Advisory Group Meeting.
redandwhitearmy.co.uk/post/rawa-stat…
@SunderlandAFC @NUFC @nufctrust @ALS_Fanzine @WiseMenSayPod @KiMcGuinness @JamesCopley_
A bubble match means away fans cannot get their ticket unless they travel on the official, police‑escorted coaches. No choice of transport, no freedom to plan your day. It places blanket restrictions on thousands of ordinary supporters. This would be the first bubble in the history of the Tyne–Wear derby, imposed after a fixture with only three arrests and described by police as “largely without incident.” There has been no consultation with supporters at any point in the seven months since that game.
Red and White Army is extremely concerned that such a drastic and restrictive measure has been pushed through without proper evidence, without meaningful engagement, and without any attempt to work with supporters on a proportionate plan.
The SAG minutes released this week raise serious questions. They show that concerns from the March derby were discussed, but they do not show any detailed evidence pack, incident data, intelligence summary or formal risk assessment being shared. The meeting appears to have centred almost entirely on a managed coach operation, with no alternative options formally presented, tested or compared. Supporter consultation didn’t happen before the recommendation was made, and “engagement” was only mentioned as something to do afterwards.
There is no sign of a balanced assessment of risk. Issues linked to independent travel were noted, but there is nothing to show these were weighed against the risks introduced by a compulsory coach operation. There is no distinction between different types of supporters, despite acknowledging that the vast majority behave responsibly. And there is nothing to show that targeted, less restrictive measures were even considered before deciding a bubble was the only answer.
Prior to receiving the SAG minutes (obtained via a Freedom of Information request), RAWA, the clubs, NUST and the FSA produced a detailed mitigation document. It sets out practical, proportionate steps covering behaviour, travel, stadium operations and policing. These include enhanced voluntary coach travel, managed rail options, alternative walking routes with larger buffer zones, targeted deployment at known congregation points, and strong fan‑led communications. Together, these measures offer a workable, collaborative approach that tackles the risks identified without removing supporter choice.
We have asked Northumbria Police to reassess the decision in light of these mitigations and the clear gaps in the SAG process. So far, they have refused to do so.
David Rose, Vice Chair of RAWA and Deputy CEO of the Football Supporters’ Association, said:
“A bubble is a backwards step for football policing. It strips away supporter freedoms, applies blanket restrictions to thousands of law‑abiding fans, and ignores a decade of progress in how high‑risk fixtures are managed. Supporters deserve better.”
Based on the information released to date, RAWA does not believe the case has been made that a compulsory bubble is necessary, proportionate or justified. We continue to urge Northumbria Police and partner agencies to revisit the decision and work with supporters and clubs on a safer, more balanced plan that respects both safety and supporter rights.
Supporters remain ready to work constructively with all stakeholders. What we need now is a willingness from Northumbria Police to do the same.
Supporters can read the full detail in the two documents linked below:
Joint Mitigation Proposal (RAWA, SAFC, NUFC, NUST, FSA)
RAWA Summary of SAG Minutes and Key Concerns
Please head over to our website for the full set of documents relating to the Safety Advisory Group Meeting.
redandwhitearmy.co.uk/post/rawa-stat…
@SunderlandAFC @NUFC @nufctrust @ALS_Fanzine @WiseMenSayPod @KiMcGuinness @JamesCopley_
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MONDAY POD | With Lee Howey
Boy did #safc need that.
⚽️ Brobbey unplayable
⚽️ Talbi back in the team
⚽️ Xhaka stuff OTT?
Apple: shorturl.at/Hn3nN
Spotify: shorturl.at/WEOmX
Website: wisemensay.co.uk
Boy did #safc need that.
⚽️ Brobbey unplayable
⚽️ Talbi back in the team
⚽️ Xhaka stuff OTT?
Apple: shorturl.at/Hn3nN
Spotify: shorturl.at/WEOmX
Website: wisemensay.co.uk
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Lee Howey is joining us on the pod later.
Any thoughts/questions on the match or the general state of play for #safc ?
@howey_lee
Any thoughts/questions on the match or the general state of play for #safc ?
@howey_lee
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REACTION | SAFC 1-0 CHELSEA
@GoldyWMS is in the press box and @eleanor_amc is with @1Easterbrook down Sheepfolds as Sunderland get back to winning ways
#SAFC
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@GoldyWMS is in the press box and @eleanor_amc is with @1Easterbrook down Sheepfolds as Sunderland get back to winning ways
#SAFC
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It’s just funny at this point how the rest of the PL teams are covered when they dare to beat one of the so called big six.
Whatever the penalty controversies, and headlines of Daylight Brobbery, Sunderland players showed how much they were playing for Regis Le Bris and why he remains the right head coach for them. Fans played their part, too. TV shook with the noise they made. #SAFC
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Absolutely chuffed for Regis like. Zagreb has to be the bottom, put that effort in for the rest of the season and #safc will be alright
It was starting to look like a new voice in the dressing room might be needed to snap them into action but I hope this the moment things change
It was starting to look like a new voice in the dressing room might be needed to snap them into action but I hope this the moment things change
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I will be on @wearetrackradio tomorrow wanging on about SAFC with @VassosA, tune in from 9am
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REACTION | SAFC 1-0 CHELSEA
@GoldyWMS is in the press box and @eleanor_amc is with @1Easterbrook down Sheepfolds as Sunderland get back to winning ways
#SAFC
wisemensay.co.uk/reaction-sunde…
@GoldyWMS is in the press box and @eleanor_amc is with @1Easterbrook down Sheepfolds as Sunderland get back to winning ways
#SAFC
wisemensay.co.uk/reaction-sunde…
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The silence comes after The Last Post - they didn’t really signpost this in the stadium last season so worth noting this
Today, we honour those who fought and died protecting our country on Remembrance Sunday. There will be a display by @ThisIsWearside and the order for The Last Post is as follows:
Recitation of The Ode of Remembrance
The Last Post
2 minutes of Silence
Reveille
The Kohima Epitaph
s the match.
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“You’re back early love, match that bad?”
“I don’t want to talk about it. Oh, and don’t watch the news.”
“I don’t want to talk about it. Oh, and don’t watch the news.”
A #Pompey fan in the North Stand was ejected from Fratton Park today for grabbing Junior Tchamadeu’s shorts in the first half
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Fair play 👏
This unbelievable donation arrived in the post to us this week and it has me truly speechless. To donate something so special purchased by someone so important is so selfless and kind
This donation did not arrive with a contact address so if this is from you please let us know❤
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Had a response from the club on this. The cordon was not planned but put in place by police after Zagreb supporters deviated from the original plan to march from the city centre (1/x)
Anyone get caught up in the congestion getting into North Stand /North-West corner tonight? Looked pretty bad. Questions for the club and police to answer as there was no communication seemingly that access to turnstiles was going to be restricted.
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Club said they and police didn’t plan for this and weren’t anticipating the Zagreb fans coming in from that direction (intelligence had suggested they were meeting in city centre and marching from there)
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