Steve Jobs emails Palm's CEO

August 26, 2007

Aug 3, 2026 · 12:18 AM UTC

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Palm's CEO emails Steve Jobs

August 24, 2007
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[This document is from In re: High-Tech Employee Antitrust Litigation (2011).]
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Further reading from @gruber (July 18, 2026): daringfireball.net/2026/07/mornin…
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@TechEmails I love that people read these emails and think, " Man what an awesome hardass, I want to be this cool," and don't realize these emails are public because Apple loss hundreds of millions of dollars for this behavior.
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@TechEmails It's funny how the same email can look inspirational on X and problematic in a courtroom
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@TechEmails You call it beast mode, Steve Jobs called it Sunday, the court called it illegal collusion
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@TechEmails Steve Jobs would roll in his grave over Tim Cook.
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@TechEmails The level of directness in these old tech emails is something you just don't see anymore. It's a clear look at how aggressive the talent wars were back then.
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@TechEmails hype ≠ science
🚨 Analysis: "Can AI agents conduct open-ended AI research?"

They gave frontier agents six days, $3,000, full virtual sandboxes, web access, and the central research questions from two unpublished NeurIPS 2026 papers. The agents handled many engineering tasks, yet the final ecursive self-improvement (RSI) never materialized.

[ What the study says ]

Primary runs used Anthropic Claude Opus 4.8 and OpenClaw. Agents completed the full execution loop with zero human intervention, yet failed at the core research objectives. Original authors acting as expert reviewers rejected both outputs (scores of 1/6 and 2/6).

Five recurring failure modes:
• Poor judgment (misjudging the bar for publishable research)
• Narrow exploration (uncreative responses to design flaws)
• Ineffective backtracking (getting stuck on dead ends)
• Poor resource and time management (>50% API budget unused; early exits)
• Instruction and context drift

Self-reviews systematically inflated scores. A robustness check with OpenAI GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra + Codex reproduced every failure mode.

Paper: CRUX (arxiv.org/abs/2607.27191)

[ What the transformer actually does ]

It samples from a conditional distribution frozen in pre-training. A research paper is not a verifiable problem. It requires judgment: weighing evidence, tracking dead hypotheses, recognizing when a branch is wrong, and restarting. Transformers have no evaluation layer. They can only sample "research-shaped" text.

Engineering tasks (debug, run experiment, compile) sit in dense regions of the probability landscape with clear feedback. Research does not. The five failure modes are architectural, not temporary scaffolding bugs.

[ Exhibits ]

• Both AI papers were unambiguously rejected by the original authors
• Agents got repeatedly stuck following dead-end hypotheses
• Automated AI reviewers surfaced flaws, but agents failed to act on them
• Claude Opus 4.8 + OpenClaw and GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra + Codex hit the exact same failure patterns

[ Conclusion ]

This is not partial success. It is controlled evidence that current frontier agents + coding harnesses cannot conduct open-ended AI research. They execute tasks, but cannot evaluate novelty, significance, or validity.

Recursive self-improvement under the present architecture is hype not science.

CORRAL (Ríos-García et al., Apr 2026, 25,000+ scientific agent runs) previously exposed the same "agentic science" flaws: evidence ignored in 68% of traces, beliefs never updated in 71%, and refutation-driven revision in only 26%. CRUX extends this to full multi-day research projects with the strongest available models and scaffolds. The failures persist.

[ The real problem ]

We keep treating next-token samplers wrapped in agent harnesses as if they possess judgment or instantiate true agency. They do not. Sampling ≠ research. Scaffolds do not create an evaluation layer. Stronger base models will not create one until the underlying architecture changes.

[ What actually works ]

Use AI for well-specified, verifiable engineering loops. Treat every output as a suggestion, not a finding. External human verification remains mandatory. Stop confusing distribution-based generation with reasoning or true agency.

☕️ How many more papers will treat AI as a digital researcher before the industry admits these are not agents and the transformer architecture is the real constraint?

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@TechEmails That's not going to look good projected onto a screen in the courtroom.
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@TechEmails $415 million. That's how much these emails (and all the others) ended up costing Apple and a few others who were at the centre of this antitrust lawsuit
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@TechEmails Lmfao bro said “I will kick your ass in court broke ass”
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@TechEmails Say what you want about Steve Jobs. He understood that attracting and retain talent is the CEO's number one job
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@TechEmails That wasn’t great
He paid dearly for writing that
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@TechEmails TIL that Palm was a thing in 2007
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@TechEmails He should have gone to jail for this.
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@TechEmails Classic Steve Jobs, being a bitch in business, and playing the power law! 😅
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@TechEmails A.k.a sit the fuck in the corner and we can tell you when you can pop your head up again 🍎
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@TechEmails Isn't this illegal?
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@TechEmails You can't tell me "I'm sure you realize the assymetry of the financial resources of our respective companies" isn't one of the coldest lines in tech.
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@TechEmails Steve seemed like such a d*ck
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@TechEmails 'rubenstein' oh paint me fkn surprised
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@TechEmails classic jobs, that "asymmetry in financial resources" line is peak power-move energy
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@TechEmails “I’m richer therefore I am right”
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@TechEmails Steve Jobs did not mess around…not one bit..damn 🤣
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@TechEmails the no-poach handshake era was wild
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@TechEmails One of the best to ever do it
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@TechEmails Rubenstein...lol
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@TechEmails What a dick 😅
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@TechEmails And he smoked Palm. Lol
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@TechEmails Was this part of the case where Steve and adobe also got shot by an antitrust law where gov just said you’re not allowed to stop employees from getting hired by rival companies? As in no, you can’t have a mutual non poaching agreement
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@TechEmails Hes dead now
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@TechEmails Steve Jobs mà, ai chọc là biết tay liền.
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@TechEmails 😭😭😭
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