...and sadly I know a lot of AAA devs who have active disdain for their gamer audiences. It's something that's perhaps always existed but it's been noticeably worse since the mid 00s' (2005/6 or so). I never understand these ppl and think 'why are you even making games? your attitude is the toxic part. customers always whine...deal with it'.
Once a game studio devolves internally to "us (devs) vs them (gamers)" that studio is lost the vast majority of the time. You need to insulate devs from constant online vitriol but you also need devs who don't actively dislike and dismiss their audience. This used to be obvious.
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@georgebsocial It’s not hard to understand. Many people create for themselves not customers. Few people get into a profession thinking “gee I can’t wait to serve others”.
I also understand why people dislike their audiences. Just look at the comments any female dev gets.
I also understand why people dislike their audiences. Just look at the comments any female dev gets.
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I 1000% got into this industry thinking "i have to serve others"
That's literally what a job is.
It's insane to think that this industry was overtaken by people who dislike the audience and don't want to give them what they want.
That's literally all i do every day. I wake up,think other people would want. That's my purpose as a game developer.
I 1000% got into this industry thinking "i have to serve others"
That's literally what a job is.
It's insane to think that this industry was overtaken by people who dislike the audience and don't want to give them what they want.
That's literally all i do every day. I wake up,think other people would want. That's my purpose as a game developer.
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@SeaCritDev @georgebsocial Overtaken?
No.
I think it’s more likely that being exposed to social media damages that relationship. Even for those of us around for decades.
No.
I think it’s more likely that being exposed to social media damages that relationship. Even for those of us around for decades.
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@jadel4ww@georgebsocialnk most all of us have fallen into this downward spiral where we see this group of people as our sphere of "allies" we act pleasasntly with this faction and we commit to awful snark with everyone else.
It's done supreme damage, and it's ruined are ability as people to see nuance in each other.
We don't hold those close to us to standards, we impale anoyone outside our sphere on a pike for whatever reasons suits us.
It's diminished the ways in which we engage with one another.
And I'll even own up to the fact that I'm guilty of it in this thread.
Lots of talented people losing their jobs, and that's a shame.
Also a shame how those people view and mock their audience.
There are no perfect darlings, we need to find a way to be better.
It's done supreme damage, and it's ruined are ability as people to see nuance in each other.
We don't hold those close to us to standards, we impale anoyone outside our sphere on a pike for whatever reasons suits us.
It's diminished the ways in which we engage with one another.
And I'll even own up to the fact that I'm guilty of it in this thread.
Lots of talented people losing their jobs, and that's a shame.
Also a shame how those people view and mock their audience.
There are no perfect darlings, we need to find a way to be better.
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@SeaCritDev @jadel4w @georgebsocial Then your game is just a product,nothing more. Most great games were created as art, as en expresion of the creators vision. The issue I see in today's industry, is big companies cut the visionaries and just make bland products. A product can be fun, but it won't be remembered.
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@_ArturoLagos_l@jadel4wt@georgebsocialbelieve.
You have chosen to believe other people are lowly nothings, who can not aspire to your self revelry.
You think the only enlightenment can be found in catering to your own desires and your own wants, and that your world view is perfect, you have no wisdom to discover, no revelations to live through.
What a pretentious and naive way to live.
I'm making 10x the game you will ever have the capacity to make. More competent, more fun, more SOULFUL than that self indulgent SLOP you bullshitters have rained upon us.
One of the worst elements we've endured over these dreadful years, is having to listen to you smarmy goofs filate one another over your milquetoast "talents".
There is a monumental distinction to be made between that self revelry and art.
You lot gassed each other up, gave one another participation trophies for malformed slop, and scratched backs and affirmed while standards fell through the floor boards.
True makers of games drag themselves across the broken glass and bleed to the gods of gamedev, to grease the mechanisms of play that procure the secret sauce without the free paychecks, without the hollow affirmations, without the ok from the peanut gallery.
Because there is a fucking duty to birth beautiful thins into this world.
You assholes are so removed from the practice of making high end art that you cannot even fathom what that even is.
You have chosen to believe other people are lowly nothings, who can not aspire to your self revelry.
You think the only enlightenment can be found in catering to your own desires and your own wants, and that your world view is perfect, you have no wisdom to discover, no revelations to live through.
What a pretentious and naive way to live.
I'm making 10x the game you will ever have the capacity to make. More competent, more fun, more SOULFUL than that self indulgent SLOP you bullshitters have rained upon us.
One of the worst elements we've endured over these dreadful years, is having to listen to you smarmy goofs filate one another over your milquetoast "talents".
There is a monumental distinction to be made between that self revelry and art.
You lot gassed each other up, gave one another participation trophies for malformed slop, and scratched backs and affirmed while standards fell through the floor boards.
True makers of games drag themselves across the broken glass and bleed to the gods of gamedev, to grease the mechanisms of play that procure the secret sauce without the free paychecks, without the hollow affirmations, without the ok from the peanut gallery.
Because there is a fucking duty to birth beautiful thins into this world.
You assholes are so removed from the practice of making high end art that you cannot even fathom what that even is.
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