Super hyped for this episode. Got into pstack & Grok Bot plus lots of alpha.
Learn how to become a better software engineer from an Apple veteran with over 12 years of experience building products.
This The Programming Podcast episode is with @RayFernando1337 and @leonnoel!
00:00 Meet Ray Fernando: 12 Years at Apple
01:51 How Ray Uses AI Agents to e Real Cost of AI Agent Workflows
07:25 Automating Email with AI
10:52 A Word from Our Sponsors
13:13 Building Reliable AI Agents and Verification Systems
18:31 How to Keep Up with AI as a Software Engineer
21:01 Skill Chaining: Building Better AI Workflows
24:05 CSV vs. JSON and Why AI Constraints Matter
26:32 Claude vs. Codex vs. Gemini: Choosing the Right Model
31:17 Leon's AI Workflow for Shipping Code Faster
35:41 Behind the Scenes of Undersold AI
39:01 When Is an AI Product Ready to Launch?
43:04 Why Danny Walked Away from Two Software Projects
48:40 Fail, Pivot, Grow: Turning Failure into Progress
49:13 From Wedding DJ to Apple Engineer
53:09 How to Build Relationships and Network in Tech
58:19 What It Takes to Succeed as an Engineer at Apple
1:02:56 What Separates Great Engineers from Average Engineers?
1:06:50 Listener Q&A: What AI Portfolio Project Should You Build?
1:10:52 Why Most Developers Build the Wrong Portfolio Projects
1:14:41 Final Thoughts and Outro
Oct 16, 2026 · 11:28 PM UTC
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@RayFernando1337 what's the one grok bot thing most people aren't using yet?
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