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$QTC went live on near.com today with only 1.27% of its supply actually circulating
> tl;dr 98.7% is unmined or vesting, and the big insider cliff is 338 days out
267k qtc circulating x $100 = ~$26.7m. not the $2.1b fdv
math, receipts, how to buy and the one walo still shows mc as $0 (coingecko.com/en/coins/quant…), so heres the live chain read from qtcscan.com/supply
- 5.72m of 21m qtc issued
- 5.46m of that locked in the vesting pallet
- ~54k mined since sep 9 genesis
> 46 schedules hold 5.42m qtc and release nothing before sep 9 2027. every one is listed here: qtcscan.com/vesting
the split is in the whitepaper (quantus.com/whitepaper): 23% team + investors, 4% company, 1y cliff then 36mo linear
until today the only market was a cex the team never endorsed, ~$1.4k of +2% depth. their oct 1 warning about it: x.com/QuantusNetwork…
> today @near_intents opened qtc to 180+ assets on 30+ chains: x.com/QuantusNetwork…
the near pool opened at ~$20 (24h low $19.98). its ~$101 now, 1,781 buys vs 164 sells, $13m liquidity: geckoterminal.com/near/pools/ref…
how to buy, official route only:
- go to near.com, sign up with a wallet or passkey, no email no kyc
- swap into qtc from usdc, btc, eth, sol, zec or 180+ other assets
- swaps route through the @rhea_finance pool via near intents solvers
- withdraw natively to your own quantus wallet (quantus.com/wallet) if you want self custody
- real ca on near is qtc.omft.near, any other "qtc" ca is a copy
props to @QuantusNetwork: vesting fully onchain and no dev tax, block reward is just unmined supply / 50m (docs.quantus.com/deep-dives/qpo…)
the risk:
- miners print ~2k qtc/day (~$200k)
- the team pegs mining cost at $45-80/coin (quantus.com/blog/weekly-up…)
- sep 2027 adds ~4.9k/day for 3 years
> so when you see "one wallet holds 73% of the float", now you know: its the treasury's 210k, the 1% set aside for initial liquidity. it moved oct 5, and nearblocks now shows 185k qtc bridged to near: nearblocks.io/token/qtc.omft…
treasury account, check the outflows yourself: qtcscan.com/account/?addre…
now you know more about $QTC than 99% of ct. nfa dyor
> tl;dr 98.7% is unmined or vesting, and the big insider cliff is 338 days out
267k qtc circulating x $100 = ~$26.7m. not the $2.1b fdv
math, receipts, how to buy and the one walo still shows mc as $0 (coingecko.com/en/coins/quant…), so heres the live chain read from qtcscan.com/supply
- 5.72m of 21m qtc issued
- 5.46m of that locked in the vesting pallet
- ~54k mined since sep 9 genesis
> 46 schedules hold 5.42m qtc and release nothing before sep 9 2027. every one is listed here: qtcscan.com/vesting
the split is in the whitepaper (quantus.com/whitepaper): 23% team + investors, 4% company, 1y cliff then 36mo linear
until today the only market was a cex the team never endorsed, ~$1.4k of +2% depth. their oct 1 warning about it: x.com/QuantusNetwork…
> today @near_intents opened qtc to 180+ assets on 30+ chains: x.com/QuantusNetwork…
the near pool opened at ~$20 (24h low $19.98). its ~$101 now, 1,781 buys vs 164 sells, $13m liquidity: geckoterminal.com/near/pools/ref…
how to buy, official route only:
- go to near.com, sign up with a wallet or passkey, no email no kyc
- swap into qtc from usdc, btc, eth, sol, zec or 180+ other assets
- swaps route through the @rhea_finance pool via near intents solvers
- withdraw natively to your own quantus wallet (quantus.com/wallet) if you want self custody
- real ca on near is qtc.omft.near, any other "qtc" ca is a copy
props to @QuantusNetwork: vesting fully onchain and no dev tax, block reward is just unmined supply / 50m (docs.quantus.com/deep-dives/qpo…)
the risk:
- miners print ~2k qtc/day (~$200k)
- the team pegs mining cost at $45-80/coin (quantus.com/blog/weekly-up…)
- sep 2027 adds ~4.9k/day for 3 years
> so when you see "one wallet holds 73% of the float", now you know: its the treasury's 210k, the 1% set aside for initial liquidity. it moved oct 5, and nearblocks now shows 185k qtc bridged to near: nearblocks.io/token/qtc.omft…
treasury account, check the outflows yourself: qtcscan.com/account/?addre…
now you know more about $QTC than 99% of ct. nfa dyor
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5 days ago i said watch the $qtc gap. if it outgrows mining, holders are going private, not just miners
it did
since oct 21, same line under the qtcscan table:
- gap: 92,739 → 103,523 (+10,784)
- total supply: 5,750,914 → 5,759,897 (+8,983)
private exits ran ~20% ahead of ra ~1.8k cant be new block rewards, thats existing coins going through the wormhole
catch: coins can exit twice, so its volume, not unique holders
kryptex "bag" is 42.9k now, still nonce 0
dyor
it did
since oct 21, same line under the qtcscan table:
- gap: 92,739 → 103,523 (+10,784)
- total supply: 5,750,914 → 5,759,897 (+8,983)
private exits ran ~20% ahead of ra ~1.8k cant be new block rewards, thats existing coins going through the wormhole
catch: coins can exit twice, so its volume, not unique holders
kryptex "bag" is 42.9k now, still nonce 0
dyor
the #3 "whale" on $qtc's rich list is kryptex: 37.6k qtc ($3.4m), zero outbound transfers ever. its not a bag. its a receipt
tl;dr every mined qtc lands in an address nobody can sign from. 92.7k already left privately, more than was ever mined
math + how to check it below
how ds mint into a wormhole address, no key exists for it
- miners exit with a zk proof to a fresh address
- the new address gets credited, the old balance never drops
so the rich list counts those coins twice. qtcscan measures the gap:
5,843,653 qtc in all balances - 5,750,914 issued = 92,739 exited privately
top 100 miner addresses: 82.3k qtc, 0 of 100 ever sent a normal tx. 81.2k mined since sep 9
what it changes:
- kryptex, quanpool, luckypool = 74.8k qtc ($6.8m) of overhang that isnt there
- the gap = 31% of the 296k circulating float
- 100% of mined supply is born private
check: qtcscan.com/accounts, line under the table. "pool" + "no outbound" = skip it
watch the gap. if it outgrows mining, holders are going private, not just miners
props to @quantusnetwork for private issuance by default, not an opt-in nobody uses
the catch:
- coins can exit more than once, so 92.7k is volume, not unique coins
- privacy cuts both ways. nobody can prove who holds qtc, insiders included. every whale-wallet take is unverifiable, bull or bear
which number would you track to spot holders going private?
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@QuantusNetworkt@YuviLightmanO@JoeMattiai@n13n@defijangle @j_in_marketing balances exceqtcscan.com/accounts/,522.68 qtc" (block #295,058)
2. qtcscan.com/accounts-data.… - summed_balance vs total_issuance, same block. isqtcscan.com/accounts-data.… 21 side: 92,739 gap and 5,750,914 supply, from the quoted post (qtcscan, block #265,494)
4. github.com/Quantus-Networ… - search "supply accounting": an exit mints to the user without raising issuance, so the gap only grows through private exits
5. qtcscan.com/supply/ - mined 90.2k now vs 81.2k on oct 21, so +9k new coins against +10.8k gap
t.me/Checker1crypto
2. qtcscan.com/accounts-data.… - summed_balance vs total_issuance, same block. isqtcscan.com/accounts-data.… 21 side: 92,739 gap and 5,750,914 supply, from the quoted post (qtcscan, block #265,494)
4. github.com/Quantus-Networ… - search "supply accounting": an exit mints to the user without raising issuance, so the gap only grows through private exits
5. qtcscan.com/supply/ - mined 90.2k now vs 81.2k on oct 21, so +9k new coins against +10.8k gap
t.me/Checker1crypto
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if youre launching an ai or web3 product, this is the shortcut
@CELE8EX lets you book creators at their listed price. no dms, no agents, no guessing
> 324 accounts across ai, crypto and tech
> views pulled straight from the api, the median post, not the best day
> money sits in escrow, tly after the post is live
> not posted on the date = 100% back
one round they ran in july did 48.3m views across 19 accounts
creators: 10k+ followers, listing is free and you set your own price
kol marketing finally has a price tag you can see
@CELE8EX lets you book creators at their listed price. no dms, no agents, no guessing
> 324 accounts across ai, crypto and tech
> views pulled straight from the api, the median post, not the best day
> money sits in escrow, tly after the post is live
> not posted on the date = 100% back
one round they ran in july did 48.3m views across 19 accounts
creators: 10k+ followers, listing is free and you set your own price
kol marketing finally has a price tag you can see
How much does a Celebex creator make in a month?
We ran the math on 5 creators from our catalogue.
One ad a day. 30 days. Their lowest listed price.
@0xCodez: $21,000
@Argona0x: $9,000
@0x_fokki: $4,800
@hanakoxbt: $4,500
@LunarResearcher: $4,500
$43,800 a month across five e cheapest service on their menu, not the full one.
Now flip it.
@Argona0x averages 32k views per post. Ads start at $300.
Under $10 per 1,000 views.
>> Launching an AI or Web3 product? We pick the creators, prep the content and report on every post.
DMs are open.
Creators: if your numbers look like this, the catalogue is open too.
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@CELE8EX @Argona0x @0xCodez @0x_fokki @hanakoxbt @LunarResearcher book or list here: celebex.notpeople.ai
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the electrum hack needed zero quantum computers and zero cracked keys. electrum users lost $btc this week to an address that only matched the last 4 characters.
> tl;dr that "security" was 11.3m guesses. 2 cpu cores, plain python, no gpu
math, the 62 sigs nobody checked, and thebelow
how it worked, per electrum's advisory:
- malicious server swallows your tx, shows a zero fee fake
- the fake pays an address grinded to end in the same 4 chars
- you bump the fee, your wallet signs it, thief gets paid
the math:
4 base58 chars = 58^4 = 11,316,496 combos
my run: 38.6s (lucky, avg ~5 min)
genesis 1A1z...DivfNa vs mine 1CAu...GFvfNa, pic 1
the part nobody posted: user1's fake tx reused all 62 signatures from the real one. zero valid for it. electrum didnt check mempool sigs before 4.8.3
ct spends weeks on whether quantum forges $btc sigs by 2030. this guy didnt need to forge anything
$qtc built the fix for exactly this, a 5 word checkphrase per address:
- 2^55 = 36 quadrillion combos vs 11.3m
- 40k pbkdf2 rounds per guess, ~7ms for you, ~8m cpu years to grind one
- genesis reads ahead-aware-sea-blockbuster-hedgehog, my lookalike reads levity-great-sentence-soup-ship
props @QuantusNetwork for putting it in the send screen and cold wallet app, not just the docs. mit licensed, any chain
honest minus: the quantus app still reads history from its own indexer. pq sigs dont fix "trust the server", checkphrases fix the address part
how many chars do you actually check before you sign?
dyor
> tl;dr that "security" was 11.3m guesses. 2 cpu cores, plain python, no gpu
math, the 62 sigs nobody checked, and thebelow
how it worked, per electrum's advisory:
- malicious server swallows your tx, shows a zero fee fake
- the fake pays an address grinded to end in the same 4 chars
- you bump the fee, your wallet signs it, thief gets paid
the math:
4 base58 chars = 58^4 = 11,316,496 combos
my run: 38.6s (lucky, avg ~5 min)
genesis 1A1z...DivfNa vs mine 1CAu...GFvfNa, pic 1
the part nobody posted: user1's fake tx reused all 62 signatures from the real one. zero valid for it. electrum didnt check mempool sigs before 4.8.3
ct spends weeks on whether quantum forges $btc sigs by 2030. this guy didnt need to forge anything
$qtc built the fix for exactly this, a 5 word checkphrase per address:
- 2^55 = 36 quadrillion combos vs 11.3m
- 40k pbkdf2 rounds per guess, ~7ms for you, ~8m cpu years to grind one
- genesis reads ahead-aware-sea-blockbuster-hedgehog, my lookalike reads levity-great-sentence-soup-ship
props @QuantusNetwork for putting it in the send screen and cold wallet app, not just the docs. mit licensed, any chain
honest minus: the quantus app still reads history from its own indexer. pq sigs dont fix "trust the server", checkphrases fix the address part
how many chars do you actually check before you sign?
dyor
ELECTRUM BITCOIN WALLET CONFIRMS CRITICAL SECURITY VULNERABILITY EXPLOITED IN THE WILD
Electrum has disclosed a high-severity vulnerability allowing malicious servers to trick users into sending Bitcoin to an attacker when increasing a transaction fee.
The attack works by intercepting a broadcast transaction and replacing it in the wallet’s history with a fake transaction redirecting funds to an attacker-controlled address.
If the user attempts to increase the fee using Replace-by-Fee (RBF), Electrum can sign the malicious transaction, sending the Bitcoin to the attacker.
Electrum confirmed two reported incidents, including one user who lost funds. Attackers even generated addresses matching the last four characters of the intended recipient’s address.
The vulnerability affects versions before 4.8.3 and has been patched in the latest release.
Users are urged to update immediately and verify all destination addresses and amounts before signing transactions.
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@QuantusNetworkt@n13/@YuviLightmanc@ElectrumWallets, zero fee fagithub.com/spesmilo/elect…the last four chars. user1 report: 62 sigs valid for the real tx, none for the fake
2. github.com/Quantus-Networ… - src/lib.rs: 5 words from github.com/Quantus-Networ…000 rounds. readme has the 2^55 math
3. github.com/Quantus-Networ… - mobile-app/lib/v2/screens/send: checkphrase in the send flow. quantus_sdk/lib/src/constants/app_constants.dart: history comes from the sqm.quantus.com indexer
4. diy: run the repo's addressToChecksum on 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa and 1CAuCV9xy3bjnoJhwYWf787Gn4KZGFvfNa. same last 4 chars, zero shared words
2. github.com/Quantus-Networ… - src/lib.rs: 5 words from github.com/Quantus-Networ…000 rounds. readme has the 2^55 math
3. github.com/Quantus-Networ… - mobile-app/lib/v2/screens/send: checkphrase in the send flow. quantus_sdk/lib/src/constants/app_constants.dart: history comes from the sqm.quantus.com indexer
4. diy: run the repo's addressToChecksum on 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa and 1CAuCV9xy3bjnoJhwYWf787Gn4KZGFvfNa. same last 4 chars, zero shared words
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someone paid $39k for the $qtc ticker on hyperliquid. coingecko calls it a listing. quantus hasnt said a word
> tl;dr a 2 day old wallet bought it at the 500 hype floor. zero supply, no pair, no bridge named
500 hype in, 0 qtc minted. receipts + diy check below
the wallet, 0x420 11:02 utc: first $10 from 0x6b9e…0a24, a router that paid 906 addresses in 3.5h that morning
- 12:16 utc: $40,000 usdc lands
- buys 501 hype at ~$78.17
- oct 22 06:28 utc: 500 hype spent on the ticker. name "QTC", full name "Quantus"
- today: $945 left, 19 txs total, nothing since
whats set up: max supply null, genesis 0, no spot pair, no evm contract
why it matters
quantus runs no smart contracts. the only qtc living off its own chain is qtc.omft.near behind near intents
a hl token gets its whole supply at genesis, from whoever deployed it. until a bridge is wired in, this wallet decides how many "QTC" exist on hl and who holds them
real bridged coins on hl say who backs them. UZEC comes from unit's deployer, same one as UBTC and UETH. ZEC1 is named "ZEC - Wagyu.xyz"
this one is just "Quantus", from neither
what to watch is the genesis call
supply to a bridge + a confirm from @QuantusNetwork = a new door for qtc
supply to a wallet = dont touch it
honest minus: it can still be legit. bridges reserve tickers before they announce, and 500 hype is pocket change for a funded team. one tweet settles it
would you buy QTC on hl before anyone says who holds the mint?
> tl;dr a 2 day old wallet bought it at the 500 hype floor. zero supply, no pair, no bridge named
500 hype in, 0 qtc minted. receipts + diy check below
the wallet, 0x420 11:02 utc: first $10 from 0x6b9e…0a24, a router that paid 906 addresses in 3.5h that morning
- 12:16 utc: $40,000 usdc lands
- buys 501 hype at ~$78.17
- oct 22 06:28 utc: 500 hype spent on the ticker. name "QTC", full name "Quantus"
- today: $945 left, 19 txs total, nothing since
whats set up: max supply null, genesis 0, no spot pair, no evm contract
why it matters
quantus runs no smart contracts. the only qtc living off its own chain is qtc.omft.near behind near intents
a hl token gets its whole supply at genesis, from whoever deployed it. until a bridge is wired in, this wallet decides how many "QTC" exist on hl and who holds them
real bridged coins on hl say who backs them. UZEC comes from unit's deployer, same one as UBTC and UETH. ZEC1 is named "ZEC - Wagyu.xyz"
this one is just "Quantus", from neither
what to watch is the genesis call
supply to a bridge + a confirm from @QuantusNetwork = a new door for qtc
supply to a wallet = dont touch it
honest minus: it can still be legit. bridges reserve tickers before they announce, and 500 hype is pocket change for a funded team. one tweet settles it
would you buy QTC on hl before anyone says who holds the mint?
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@QuantusNetworkt@n13/@HyperliquidNews-@HypeStatsx:@near_intentsn@coingecko9e…0a24, 501 hhypurrscan.io/address/0x4b09…oyGasAuction -500 hype on oct 22
2. x.com/HyperliquidNew… - ticker bought for 500 hype ($39,325)
3. diy: POSTx.com/HyperliquidNew…w {"type":"spotDeployState","user":"0x4b09d36e4e0a5efapi.hyperliquid.xyz/info04"} - token 1275, maxSupply null, totalGenesisBalanceWei 0, spots []
4. api.hypurrscan.io/pastAuctions - ctrl+f QTC. UBTC/UETH/UZEC all from 0xf036…6155 (unit), ZEC1 from 0x2077…e06a
5. coingecko.com/en/coins/quant… - the "hyperliquid listing" headline
6. x.com/QuantusNetwork… - oct 1, quantus warning about unofficial listings
2. x.com/HyperliquidNew… - ticker bought for 500 hype ($39,325)
3. diy: POSTx.com/HyperliquidNew…w {"type":"spotDeployState","user":"0x4b09d36e4e0a5efapi.hyperliquid.xyz/info04"} - token 1275, maxSupply null, totalGenesisBalanceWei 0, spots []
4. api.hypurrscan.io/pastAuctions - ctrl+f QTC. UBTC/UETH/UZEC all from 0xf036…6155 (unit), ZEC1 from 0x2077…e06a
5. coingecko.com/en/coins/quant… - the "hyperliquid listing" headline
6. x.com/QuantusNetwork… - oct 1, quantus warning about unofficial listings
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the $noid dev funds parked 1m noid on oct 16. 4 minutes apart, exactly 500k each. find a big redflags🚩
tl;dr oct 16 both dev funds moved exactly 500,000 noid to fresh addresses, 4 min apart. 1m noid, ~9% of supply
the setup, from parano1d's own economics page:
- 10% of every (O(1) Network Fund + Parano1d Lab)
- thats 2,304 noid each per day, paid every 2,880 blocks
- disclosed, nothing hidden there
what the explorer shows:
- oct 16 13:59 utc: fund A sends 500,000 to o1rv9y…
- oct 16 14:03 utc: fund B sends 500,000 to o1m0p7…
- both still sit there, zero outbound
- oct 20: each fund sends exactly 25,000 through one fresh hop into safetrade's hot wallet. 50k noid
and the big miner:
o189…sv6p59 still won 1,611 of the last 2,901 blocks (55.5%), down from 62% on oct 20. it sweeps to safetrade too
x.com/Checker1crypto…
Conclusion:
🚩As soon as I brought up the topic that no one talks about, the developer immediately blocked me, which speaks volumes. 1m Noida's strange transfers account for 9% of the total supply.
🚩One address mines 55-60% of the entire mining pool; the person in my comments received nothing at all: x.com/Solid_Primal/s…
🚩And mining itself, according to whattomine, is unprofitable:
x.com/Checker1crypto…
Now when you hear "noid new btc" think twice before buying and reread my posts. nfa.dyor.
addresses and blocks in the reply. check it before you trust it
That's all for me.
tl;dr oct 16 both dev funds moved exactly 500,000 noid to fresh addresses, 4 min apart. 1m noid, ~9% of supply
the setup, from parano1d's own economics page:
- 10% of every (O(1) Network Fund + Parano1d Lab)
- thats 2,304 noid each per day, paid every 2,880 blocks
- disclosed, nothing hidden there
what the explorer shows:
- oct 16 13:59 utc: fund A sends 500,000 to o1rv9y…
- oct 16 14:03 utc: fund B sends 500,000 to o1m0p7…
- both still sit there, zero outbound
- oct 20: each fund sends exactly 25,000 through one fresh hop into safetrade's hot wallet. 50k noid
and the big miner:
o189…sv6p59 still won 1,611 of the last 2,901 blocks (55.5%), down from 62% on oct 20. it sweeps to safetrade too
x.com/Checker1crypto…
Conclusion:
🚩As soon as I brought up the topic that no one talks about, the developer immediately blocked me, which speaks volumes. 1m Noida's strange transfers account for 9% of the total supply.
🚩One address mines 55-60% of the entire mining pool; the person in my comments received nothing at all: x.com/Solid_Primal/s…
🚩And mining itself, according to whattomine, is unprofitable:
x.com/Checker1crypto…
Now when you hear "noid new btc" think twice before buying and reread my posts. nfa.dyor.
addresses and blocks in the reply. check it before you trust it
That's all for me.
the $noid dev blocked me
tl;dr every number i posted on parano1d came from his own docs and his own explorer. they all stay up, and you can check each one without him
for context, the last week here:
- v2.1 launchpad vs 46k new noid a day (his economics page)
- empty block ne in 17.6s (his performance page)
- asked for signed wallet hashes so fake wallets are a 10 second check
no leaks, no fud, no price calls. just his tables read out loud
and to be fair to him: devs block for all kinds of reasons, and parano1d's docs are some of the most detailed in this whole niche. thats exactly why i could write those posts
so nothing changes here. if you want to check $noid yourself, 3 pages, no dev needed:
- performance: prove and verify times per block type
- explorer stats: live hashrate, supply, block time
- parameters: 30s blocks, small vs large limits
links in the reply. dont trust me, dont trust him, read the tables
which number do you want me to pull next?
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receipts:
1. docs.parano1d.org/protocol/econo… - "development allocation": 90/5/5 split, 2,304 noid per fund per interval
2. noidexplorer.org/block/247976 - latest fund payout, system record pays o1r3djx… and o1xcjdp…
3. noidexplorer.org/address/o1rv9y… - 500,000 in at block 225,854, nothing out
4. noidexplorer.org/address/o1m0p7… - 500,000 in at block 225,859, nothing out
5. 25k hops: o1nvuhke… > o1g7yrc… and o1l6l9f… > o17rfgz…, both end in o1hk70… (38k utxos, safetrade hot wallet)
6. noidexplorer.org/api/v1/blocks - o189 won 1,611 of 2,901 blocks, heights 245,151 to 248,051
1. docs.parano1d.org/protocol/econo… - "development allocation": 90/5/5 split, 2,304 noid per fund per interval
2. noidexplorer.org/block/247976 - latest fund payout, system record pays o1r3djx… and o1xcjdp…
3. noidexplorer.org/address/o1rv9y… - 500,000 in at block 225,854, nothing out
4. noidexplorer.org/address/o1m0p7… - 500,000 in at block 225,859, nothing out
5. 25k hops: o1nvuhke… > o1g7yrc… and o1l6l9f… > o17rfgz…, both end in o1hk70… (38k utxos, safetrade hot wallet)
6. noidexplorer.org/api/v1/blocks - o189 won 1,611 of 2,901 blocks, heights 245,151 to 248,051
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the $noid dev blocked me
tl;dr every number i posted on parano1d came from his own docs and his own explorer. they all stay up, and you can check each one without him
for context, the last week here:
- v2.1 launchpad vs 46k new noid a day (his economics page)
- empty block ne in 17.6s (his performance page)
- asked for signed wallet hashes so fake wallets are a 10 second check
no leaks, no fud, no price calls. just his tables read out loud
and to be fair to him: devs block for all kinds of reasons, and parano1d's docs are some of the most detailed in this whole niche. thats exactly why i could write those posts
so nothing changes here. if you want to check $noid yourself, 3 pages, no dev needed:
- performance: prove and verify times per block type
- explorer stats: live hashrate, supply, block time
- parameters: 30s blocks, small vs large limits
links in the reply. dont trust me, dont trust him, read the tables
which number do you want me to pull next?
tl;dr every number i posted on parano1d came from his own docs and his own explorer. they all stay up, and you can check each one without him
for context, the last week here:
- v2.1 launchpad vs 46k new noid a day (his economics page)
- empty block ne in 17.6s (his performance page)
- asked for signed wallet hashes so fake wallets are a 10 second check
no leaks, no fud, no price calls. just his tables read out loud
and to be fair to him: devs block for all kinds of reasons, and parano1d's docs are some of the most detailed in this whole niche. thats exactly why i could write those posts
so nothing changes here. if you want to check $noid yourself, 3 pages, no dev needed:
- performance: prove and verify times per block type
- explorer stats: live hashrate, supply, block time
- parameters: 30s blocks, small vs large limits
links in the reply. dont trust me, dont trust him, read the tables
which number do you want me to pull next?
whattomine's own calc says mining $noid loses money. so whos running the other 88% of the hash
tl;dr the public pool is 372 miners and 11.8% of the net. at $0.10/kwh the default rig is underwater, so the hash that stays runs on power retail cant get
the numbers off the listing:
at 360w: 1.829 noid a day
- $0.77 in, $0.86 of power out, -$0.10/day
- breakeven ~$0.47 per noid. price is $0.42
now scale it. explorer puts the net at ~906 gh/s
thats ~22.6k of those rigs, ~8.2 mw
at $0.10/kwh: ~$19.6k a day in power
miners get 14.4 noid a block, ~41.7k a day = ~$17.5k
so at retail rates the network costs more to run than it pays. it only works because most of it doesnt pay retail
and only 11.8% sits where you can see it: suprnova, 372 miners, ~127 gh/s. the rest is solo or private stratums
why it matters rn:
the cut is by block height now, not usage. 16 noid a block until 1,261,737, ~oct 11 2027
so miner payout in noid doesnt drop for ~352 days. price is the only lever
~$17.5k a day of mined noid vs ~$143k safetrade volume = ~12% of the tape
credit to @ignotus_nemo for getting a brand new algo onto whattomine, real distribution for gpu miners
the minus: whattomine still tags it "testing", my mw math assumes every rig is the default one, and its one exchange
so when you see "listed on whattomine", now you know it brings retail hash, and at these prices retail hash mines at a loss
whats your power cost, would you point a rig at it?
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receipts:
1. docs.parano1d.org/reference/perf… - "isolated proof construction" table, empty small median under it
2. noidexplorer.org/api/v1/stats - estimated_hashrate_hs, circulating_supply, avg_block_time_24h
3. docs.parano1d.org/protocol/param… - 30s target, small 63 / large 206 pages
4. docs.parano1d.org/protocol/econo… - 16 noid/block, 2,880 blocks a day
1. docs.parano1d.org/reference/perf… - "isolated proof construction" table, empty small median under it
2. noidexplorer.org/api/v1/stats - estimated_hashrate_hs, circulating_supply, avg_block_time_24h
3. docs.parano1d.org/protocol/param… - 30s target, small 63 / large 206 pages
4. docs.parano1d.org/protocol/econo… - 16 noid/block, 2,880 blocks a day
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whattomine's own calc says mining $noid loses money. so whos running the other 88% of the hash
tl;dr the public pool is 372 miners and 11.8% of the net. at $0.10/kwh the default rig is underwater, so the hash that stays runs on power retail cant get
the numbers off the listing:
at 360w: 1.829 noid a day
- $0.77 in, $0.86 of power out, -$0.10/day
- breakeven ~$0.47 per noid. price is $0.42
now scale it. explorer puts the net at ~906 gh/s
thats ~22.6k of those rigs, ~8.2 mw
at $0.10/kwh: ~$19.6k a day in power
miners get 14.4 noid a block, ~41.7k a day = ~$17.5k
so at retail rates the network costs more to run than it pays. it only works because most of it doesnt pay retail
and only 11.8% sits where you can see it: suprnova, 372 miners, ~127 gh/s. the rest is solo or private stratums
why it matters rn:
the cut is by block height now, not usage. 16 noid a block until 1,261,737, ~oct 11 2027
so miner payout in noid doesnt drop for ~352 days. price is the only lever
~$17.5k a day of mined noid vs ~$143k safetrade volume = ~12% of the tape
credit to @ignotus_nemo for getting a brand new algo onto whattomine, real distribution for gpu miners
the minus: whattomine still tags it "testing", my mw math assumes every rig is the default one, and its one exchange
so when you see "listed on whattomine", now you know it brings retail hash, and at these prices retail hash mines at a loss
whats your power cost, would you point a rig at it?
tl;dr the public pool is 372 miners and 11.8% of the net. at $0.10/kwh the default rig is underwater, so the hash that stays runs on power retail cant get
the numbers off the listing:
at 360w: 1.829 noid a day
- $0.77 in, $0.86 of power out, -$0.10/day
- breakeven ~$0.47 per noid. price is $0.42
now scale it. explorer puts the net at ~906 gh/s
thats ~22.6k of those rigs, ~8.2 mw
at $0.10/kwh: ~$19.6k a day in power
miners get 14.4 noid a block, ~41.7k a day = ~$17.5k
so at retail rates the network costs more to run than it pays. it only works because most of it doesnt pay retail
and only 11.8% sits where you can see it: suprnova, 372 miners, ~127 gh/s. the rest is solo or private stratums
why it matters rn:
the cut is by block height now, not usage. 16 noid a block until 1,261,737, ~oct 11 2027
so miner payout in noid doesnt drop for ~352 days. price is the only lever
~$17.5k a day of mined noid vs ~$143k safetrade volume = ~12% of the tape
credit to @ignotus_nemo for getting a brand new algo onto whattomine, real distribution for gpu miners
the minus: whattomine still tags it "testing", my mw math assumes every rig is the default one, and its one exchange
so when you see "listed on whattomine", now you know it brings retail hash, and at these prices retail hash mines at a loss
whats your power cost, would you point a rig at it?
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@WhatToMine.@Parano1dCommi@noidexplorerp@safetradem@ignotus_nemo: whattomine.com/coins/477-noid…
2. net hashrate (hashrate_4h_hs ~906 gh/swhattomine.com/coins/477-noid…/t.co/yC7orGS9Af
3. tier table, block 1,261,737 and its etnoidexplorer.org/api/v1/statsfK2
4. v2 schedule from the team, cut by heignoidexplorer.org/api/v1/economi…Yu5t
2. net hashrate (hashrate_4h_hs ~906 gh/swhattomine.com/coins/477-noid…/t.co/yC7orGS9Af
3. tier table, block 1,261,737 and its etnoidexplorer.org/api/v1/statsfK2
4. v2 schedule from the team, cut by heignoidexplorer.org/api/v1/economi…Yu5t
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$noid v2.1 makes checking a block up to a third cheaper. making one barely moved, and traffic was never the cost
tl;dr an empty block takes 16.6s to prove on a laptop, a full one 17.6s. ~94% of the proof is paid before a single tx lands
the math, from parano1d's own v2 65U laptop, 12 threads):
- small, 63 payments: 17.565s to prove, 0.830s to verify
- small, empty: 16.584s to prove (median of 3)
- 16.584 / 17.565 = 94.4%
apply todays v2.1 deltas (proving -1.4 to -4.9%, verify -23 to -34%):
- small proving: ~16.7-17.3s, inside the 30s block
- small verify: 0.83s > ~0.55-0.64s
- large, 206 payments: 42.6s > ~40.5-42s, still over 30s on that laptop
why this matters for v2.1:
launchpad buys, bonding curves and dex swaps land in blocks the chain proves anyway. on small blocks the extra activity costs whoever mines almost nothing
so when you see "v2.1 will clog the chain", the docs say the opposite for small blocks. the wall is large blocks, and those stay opt-in (--v2-large-blocks) for real hardware
credit to @ignotus_nemo for shipping per-workload timings instead of a tps number
the minus: the v2.1 bench is payments + contract calls only, no dex or bonding curve workload yet. and each docs row is one run on one laptop
what does a block full of bonding curve buys prove in? thats the number i want next
tl;dr an empty block takes 16.6s to prove on a laptop, a full one 17.6s. ~94% of the proof is paid before a single tx lands
the math, from parano1d's own v2 65U laptop, 12 threads):
- small, 63 payments: 17.565s to prove, 0.830s to verify
- small, empty: 16.584s to prove (median of 3)
- 16.584 / 17.565 = 94.4%
apply todays v2.1 deltas (proving -1.4 to -4.9%, verify -23 to -34%):
- small proving: ~16.7-17.3s, inside the 30s block
- small verify: 0.83s > ~0.55-0.64s
- large, 206 payments: 42.6s > ~40.5-42s, still over 30s on that laptop
why this matters for v2.1:
launchpad buys, bonding curves and dex swaps land in blocks the chain proves anyway. on small blocks the extra activity costs whoever mines almost nothing
so when you see "v2.1 will clog the chain", the docs say the opposite for small blocks. the wall is large blocks, and those stay opt-in (--v2-large-blocks) for real hardware
credit to @ignotus_nemo for shipping per-workload timings instead of a tps number
the minus: the v2.1 bench is payments + contract calls only, no dex or bonding curve workload yet. and each docs row is one run on one laptop
what does a block full of bonding curve buys prove in? thats the number i want next
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@Parano1dCommdocs.parano1d.org/reference/perf… - "isolated proof docs.parano1d.org/reference/perf…all 17.565s / 0.830s, large 42.583s. empty small median 16.584s right under it
2. docs.parano1d.org/protocol/param… - 30s target, smaldocs.parano1d.org/protocol/param… large needs --v2-large-blocks
3. x.com/ignotus_nemo/s… - v2.1 vs v2.0.4: proving -1.4-4.9%, verify -23-34%
2. docs.parano1d.org/protocol/param… - 30s target, smaldocs.parano1d.org/protocol/param… large needs --v2-large-blocks
3. x.com/ignotus_nemo/s… - v2.1 vs v2.0.4: proving -1.4-4.9%, verify -23-34%
More native functionality. Less work to verify it!
Parano1d v2.1 is expanding the native financial engine and making the recursive proof pipeline more efficient.
Against v2.0.4, across four matched Small/Large payment and contract-call workloads:
• Full block proving time: verification time: 23–34% lower
• Final proof size: 2.4–3.6% smaller
Each pair executes the same workload and produces the same State. These measurements cover complete block proof construction and verification, with recursive validity back to genesis.
Native tokens, launchpad, bonding curves, DEX and NFTs are coming in v2.1. More native functionality, a leaner proof engine, better engineering (tnks D and A).
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@Parano1dCommdocs.parano1d.org/protocol/econo… - tier table: 16 docs.parano1d.org/protocol/econo…locks per tier, 2,880 blocks per day
2. parano1d-scan.com - height 243,933,parano1d-scan.com, price $0.4276, 2,869 blocks in 24h
3. x.com/ignotus_nemo/s… - v2.1 article: nx.com/ignotus_nemo/s…chpad, dex, noone at onefest
4. math: 1,051,200 - (243,933 - 210,537) = 1,017,804 blocks x 16 = 16.28m noid
2. parano1d-scan.com - height 243,933,parano1d-scan.com, price $0.4276, 2,869 blocks in 24h
3. x.com/ignotus_nemo/s… - v2.1 article: nx.com/ignotus_nemo/s…chpad, dex, noone at onefest
4. math: 1,051,200 - (243,933 - 210,537) = 1,017,804 blocks x 16 = 16.28m noid
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$noid v2.1 ships a launchpad, a dex and a festival token in november. the real test is whether it can eat 46k new noid a day
tl;dr its the first thing on parano1d that can lock noid instead of selling it, and the bar is set by issuance
the math, from the docs:
2,880 blocks a noid/day
~$19.7k a day at $0.4276
1,017,804 blocks left in this tier = ~16.3m more noid. circulating today is 11.04m
so the chain prints ~1.5x its current supply before the first cut. thats the headwind every holder sits in rn
what v2.1 changes (per @ignotus_nemo's article):
- every launchpad token holds an isolated noid reserve, burn the token to redeem your share
- graduated tokens move to permanent dex liquidity
- the noone token launches on that launchpad during onefest
if those reserves and pools are noid-denominated, each launch pulls noid off safetrade and parks it onchain. 46k a day locked = issuance neutral
why now: v2.1 source lands this week, the activation height comes with it. thats the date to watch, not the festival
credit where due, ignotus put testnet wallet screenshots in the post, not mockups. rare for a roadmap
the minus: none of this is live yet, the token/dex code isnt public, and burn-to-redeem means locked noid can walk back out any day
so when you see "native defi" on $noid, the number that matters is noid locked per day vs 46,080
what launches first after noone, a meme or a real app?
tl;dr its the first thing on parano1d that can lock noid instead of selling it, and the bar is set by issuance
the math, from the docs:
2,880 blocks a noid/day
~$19.7k a day at $0.4276
1,017,804 blocks left in this tier = ~16.3m more noid. circulating today is 11.04m
so the chain prints ~1.5x its current supply before the first cut. thats the headwind every holder sits in rn
what v2.1 changes (per @ignotus_nemo's article):
- every launchpad token holds an isolated noid reserve, burn the token to redeem your share
- graduated tokens move to permanent dex liquidity
- the noone token launches on that launchpad during onefest
if those reserves and pools are noid-denominated, each launch pulls noid off safetrade and parks it onchain. 46k a day locked = issuance neutral
why now: v2.1 source lands this week, the activation height comes with it. thats the date to watch, not the festival
credit where due, ignotus put testnet wallet screenshots in the post, not mockups. rare for a roadmap
the minus: none of this is live yet, the token/dex code isnt public, and burn-to-redeem means locked noid can walk back out any day
so when you see "native defi" on $noid, the number that matters is noid locked per day vs 46,080
what launches first after noone, a meme or a real app?
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one address has won ~every $CSD block since july. last 24h: 720 out of 720
tl;dr the gpu coin that 5090 profit tables rank 2nd behind $prl went from 65 block winners in may to one
thats ~36k csd/day (~$3.5k at $0.097) passing through one wallet before it reaches a single miner
d the coinbase of 300 blocks per date from the public node api (pic 1)
- apr to jun: top address 21-30%, up to 65 different winners
- jul 2: 300/300 to 0x6fd602af...b290866a
- mid jul it switched to 0x40379fb1...62b7bd
- since then 90-100% every sample, last 720 blocks: 720/720
its a pool, not one rig. every ~2h it pays ~3.5k csd out to 24 addresses, the biggest takes about a third
"fair launch, no premine" checks out. no dev allocation in the code, params.rs is 88 lines
but fair launch isnt decentralized. whoever runs that stratum picks every tx and can reorg the chain at will
mc is ~$610k on one exchange and mining calcs are the main shill rn
credit to @Cairn_substrate tho, wallet, rpc and an onchain swap shipped on top while the core repo went quiet (6 commits in oct)
before you point a gpu at $prl, $qtc, $noid or $CSD, run the same check: coinbase of the last 500 blocks
one address at 90%+ means one operator holds the chain
honest minus: i cant prove who runs the pool yet. 24 payout addresses means the hash is spread, its the operator thats single
who runs 0x40379fb1? drop it below
tl;dr the gpu coin that 5090 profit tables rank 2nd behind $prl went from 65 block winners in may to one
thats ~36k csd/day (~$3.5k at $0.097) passing through one wallet before it reaches a single miner
d the coinbase of 300 blocks per date from the public node api (pic 1)
- apr to jun: top address 21-30%, up to 65 different winners
- jul 2: 300/300 to 0x6fd602af...b290866a
- mid jul it switched to 0x40379fb1...62b7bd
- since then 90-100% every sample, last 720 blocks: 720/720
its a pool, not one rig. every ~2h it pays ~3.5k csd out to 24 addresses, the biggest takes about a third
"fair launch, no premine" checks out. no dev allocation in the code, params.rs is 88 lines
but fair launch isnt decentralized. whoever runs that stratum picks every tx and can reorg the chain at will
mc is ~$610k on one exchange and mining calcs are the main shill rn
credit to @Cairn_substrate tho, wallet, rpc and an onchain swap shipped on top while the core repo went quiet (6 commits in oct)
before you point a gpu at $prl, $qtc, $noid or $CSD, run the same check: coinbase of the last 500 blocks
one address at 90%+ means one operator holds the chain
honest minus: i cant prove who runs the pool yet. 24 payout addresses means the hash is spread, its the operator thats single
who runs 0x40379fb1? drop it below
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@Cairn_substrate @safetradetps://t.co/d1k3tkLmCA - txexplorer.computesubstrate.org/block/height/4…602af. try 60000, 80000, 125001: 0x40379fb1. heights 1 to 30000: many different winners
2. pool payout, 72 inputs, 24 outputs: explorer.computesubstrate.org/tx/0xf3b4b1044…
3. pexplorer.computesubstrate.org/tx/0xf3b4b1044…://t.co/gHazfmUEKx
4. 5explorer.computesubstrate.org/address/40379f…remine: github.com/compute-substr…
5. price, one market: api.coinpaprika.com/v1/tickers/csd…
2. pool payout, 72 inputs, 24 outputs: explorer.computesubstrate.org/tx/0xf3b4b1044…
3. pexplorer.computesubstrate.org/tx/0xf3b4b1044…://t.co/gHazfmUEKx
4. 5explorer.computesubstrate.org/address/40379f…remine: github.com/compute-substr…
5. price, one market: api.coinpaprika.com/v1/tickers/csd…
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