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"I never appeared so worthy of praise before My Father as when I hung in agony on the cross... praise is precious in My eyes when, with thy heart, words, and works, thou dost praise me as fervently in sorrow as in joy, in adversity as in prosperity; then thou thinkest of Me"
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The Avignon papacy, which everyone agrees was an unmitigated disaster for the Church, lasted for seventy years and subsequently triggered a schism that lasted for forty years. Did the saints who lived during the Avignon papacy remain passive and resigned to the crisis out of a spirit of obedience to the Holy See? No. St Catherine of Siena pleaded with the popes to leave Avignon and derided those responsible for the pope's remaining in France as “incarnate demons." And she did so not out of rebelliousness but sincere devotion and faithfulness to the papacy and to the pope. We must do the same during the present crisis. To remain passive and to allow the Church and the papacy to be wounded by the crisis would be the very opposite of faithfulness.
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Either disingenuous, inept, or both. No one of any right mind could ever rightly twist Ambrose’s sense to be a transsignification, which would exclude his clear affirmation of a mutation of substance in the first place. He is distinguishing that it is conversive, not adductive
Ambrose gives multiple analogies in this context, some of which do and do not involve a change in the essence or substance. However, what is especially pertinent is that he gives a framework of two types of works of divine power: (1) creating things out of nothing; (2) changing into something else.
“What is the word of Christ? That, to be sure, whereby all things are made. The Lord commanded, and the heaven was made ; the Lord commanded, and the earth was made ; the Lord commanded, and the seas were made; the Lord commanded, and every creature was produced. Thou seest, therefore, how effective is the word of Christ. If, therefore, there is such power in the word of the Lord Jesus, that the things which were not began to be, how much more is it effective, that things previously existing should, without ceasing to exist, be changed into something else?”
- De Sacramentis, book IV
Those last words "without ceasing to exist" actually underwent editing by some of the patrologists in your church, such as the edition of the Ambrosian corpus produced under Pope Sixtus V. Lanfranc also tried to dispute its text, but no scholar today takes that approach seriously in the slightest. The fact they tried to dispute them like this shows that the clause did cause them trouble.
To illustrate both creation and the type of "transformation" he is talking about, Ambrose lists two types of examples.
He first talks about the miracle of creation, drawn from Scriptural examples: “The heaven was not, the sea was not, the earth was not; but hear David saying, He spake, and they were made: he commanded, and they were created.”
And then after, it appears that he gives an example of the type of change he is describing in the contested passage (“that things previously existing should, without ceasing to exist, be changed into something else?”): “Therefore, that I may answer thee, it was not the body of Christ before consecration; but after consecration, I tell thee, it is now the body of Christ. He spake, and it was made: he commanded, and it was created. Thou thyself didst formerly exist, but thou wast an old creature; after thou wast consecrated, thou didst begin to be a new creature. Wilt thou know how thou art a new creature? Everyone, it says, in Christ is a new creature.” The basic thrust of this comparison may be seen in the following table:—
Now, if indeed this illustration of Christian regeneration is an explanation of the type of change Ambrose is describing, then we are one step closer to determining what it is that remains and “continues to exist” after the consecration of the Supper. It seems like using the analogy of regeneration (which involves no cessation of the essence or subject that undergoes the change, i.e. human nature being infused with divine grace).
What you need to do is explain how Ambrose can use this analogy in a way that is consistent with transubstantiation---precisely because he gives RIGHT AFTER the contested words "change things that are...and they remain as they are..." (ut sint quae erant in aliud commutentur)
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"Progressivism has given us a theology that is not so much renewed as it is so new that it subverts the very nature of theology and drags the Catholic Faith into the same ruin."
— Abp. Luigi M. Carli
— Abp. Luigi M. Carli
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Most people place essentially no value whatsoever on whether their religion or worldview is internally coherent. Once you recognize that, it becomes much easier to understand why they find our objections to the Pope’s statements on the death penalty so incomprehensible.
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if its not him, then whatever 75 year liberal synodalist personalist italian bishop that runs his twitter should do a general confession to an French descent 25 years old IBP missionary priest serving in Gabon, and then log off.
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I don't think how an overemphasis on human dignity is really congruent with the gospel, let alone the Doctor of Grace. This whole postwar pivot has its basis in secular humanism and people like Maritian, in a way that fundamentally misunderstands human nature and HUMAN INDIGNITY
@ScholasticRose Even if granted, the position of our Holy Father, Pope Leo XIV is much more Catholic than it is made out to be, and is evidently very consistent with some of the late period Augustinians.
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“If there is any doctrine that favors true development of human activity and impresses on liberty continuous ascent to the supreme good, it is the dogma of variable justification and progressive sanctity with no limit but the infinite”
Fr. Jean Bellamy, La vie surnaturelle
Fr. Jean Bellamy, La vie surnaturelle
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“From the time that I became a Catholic…I have been in perfect peace and contentment; I never have had one doubt…It was like coming into port after a rough sea; and my happiness on that score remains to this day without interruption.” -St. John Henry Newman
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"The bonds with which He fastens your hands are weakness when compared to the loving chains which bind you to His heart... all the harsh demands He makes of you only bring you more intimately into His love. Which will exert the stronger hold over you: His love or His sword?"
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🧵How the Holy Name of Jesus consoles, defends, and ignites the love of God in us
“God also hath exalted Him, and hath given Him a name which is above all names: That in the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those that are in heaven, on earth, and under the earth”
“God also hath exalted Him, and hath given Him a name which is above all names: That in the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those that are in heaven, on earth, and under the earth”
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“It is not, therefore, by the law, nor is it by their own will, that they are justified; but they are justified freely by His grace — not that it is wrought without our will; but our will is by the law shown to be weak, that grace may heal its infirmity; and that our healed will t by compact under the law, nor yet in the absence of law.”
(St. Augustine, De Spiritu et Littera, Ch. 15)
(St. Augustine, De Spiritu et Littera, Ch. 15)
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“We’re more serious about unity because we both permit and motivate disunity in principle, arbitrarily reducing the scope of the principle of unity post hoc to proffer a notional unity more apparent than real, whereas all our ‘unified’ sects diverge in faith and practice”
The more I learn, the more I realize it’s the one true church groups who can kind of believe whatever they want and it’s the confessional Protestants who are more serious about unity.
The amount of double speak from Rome is so bafflingly apparent that I truly cannot believe there are members who genuinely believe their claims on much of anything.
I think this comes from the trap of claiming infallible authority, then obviously contradicting yourself and not conceding error but instead needing to reconcile it through cope. Which essentially just systematizes cope and allows diversity of pretty much any opinion or belief.
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Like such a braindead statement could only be clever or profound to someone devoid of common sense
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@CathRoser "Wym the works of the protestant dont save him and he has to have the faith?"
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Unfortunately we have people like you, making the Church seem superfluous, by seeming to deny the necessity of the Catholic faith or union within the mystical body so as to receive the vital influx of grace for salvation, phenomenologically motivated by subjective experiences!
@CathRoserC@AngAestheticsnspicuously diffused throughout the world and has proposed herself to such an extent, it is practically impossible to not be culpably negligent in pursuing her"
unfortunately we have people like you out here, making the Church seem self-falsified, by seeming to deny the reality that devout Protestants experience en masse
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Being a Protestant means divorcing the practical from the speculative, as if the former is not subordinate, voluntaristically reducing the Christian religion to a rank pyrrhonism and vaguely “religious” sentiment of sincerity
And in the case of the Anglican Indian man: posturing
And in the case of the Anglican Indian man: posturing
Being a consistent Roman Catholic means believing that a moving light in the sky vindicates the goodness of children drawing blood from themselves to appease the wrath of God and that a Prot man who trusts Christ, sacrifices, fasts, and dies for his enemies is likely damned.
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“The publicans and the harlots shall go into the kingdom of God before you. For John came to you in the way of justice, and you did not believe him. But the publicans and the harlots believed him: but you, seeing it, did not even afterwards repent, that you might believe him.”
The Prot guy who spends his last moments praying with his children, singing hymns, comforting his wife, and is remembered as an exemplar of Christ exhibits no evident saving charity whereas the isolated man who spends his last hours becoming RC because of Fatima more likely does
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