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And were supposed to feel sorry for you after being cancel by that convention? Yeah I think that’s no longer the case now s this is the Melonie Mac 2.0 version siding with strawb coming to her aid bc she can’t handle criticism. If She turns on you next don’t come crying to us
@shoe0nheadh@darlingstrawbie the vtuber sphere that if you call something out or you speak up about any kind of nefarious behavior, YOU are actually the problem, not the person who actually did the bad thing
it can be very frustrating
people also probably upset cuz strawb has engaged in some pointless infighting before, so they want to lump this in with that as if it's the same situation
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Let's add more shall we, how about befriending pedos eh?
Inviting Pikky to defend him even tho Chris Hansen is on his radar. Or having collabed with Usagi, another ped, and defended him?
Or defended Aka, an actual convicted ped and who is currently detained? Glass houses mate.
Inviting Pikky to defend him even tho Chris Hansen is on his radar. Or having collabed with Usagi, another ped, and defended him?
Or defended Aka, an actual convicted ped and who is currently detained? Glass houses mate.
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You have quite the balls to call someone a retard when you have:
1. Harassed multiple women when they told you to leave them alone
2. Faked being an ordained Deacon (how Christian)
3. Nazi simped
4. Larped as a trans woman on twitter and saying this shit in image 4
1. Harassed multiple women when they told you to leave them alone
2. Faked being an ordained Deacon (how Christian)
3. Nazi simped
4. Larped as a trans woman on twitter and saying this shit in image 4
Near reply asked a question and somehow Espiritu still managed to miss the point entirely.
Anyway, Strawb actually brought receipts and connected the dots. That’s more than most people in this entire circle ever do. Meanwhile Espiritu is out here crying about “irony” and y” while riding for the same exact behavior they’re pretending to be against when it’s convenient.
Shiro didn’t invent the situation. The situation already existed. Pointing it out isn’t the crime. Acting like the people who noticed it are the problem is.
Espiritu continue his quest to proves himself a retard and I am here for it. The rest of us can smell the selective blindness from here though.
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Hasan does realize he's a public figure right?
This is the definition of a lolsuit in my non-lawyer opinion.
This is the definition of a lolsuit in my non-lawyer opinion.
Court docs in the Piker vs Jennings case show Hasan alleging injury to his reputation, public humiliation, emotional distress, mental anguish, damage to his personal interests, loss of sponsors, loss of engagements, and loss of actual and prospective viewers
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Countless campaigns have been done by progs in an attempt to remove the rw side of the vtuber sphere and somehow fucking Strawb of all people is out here is doing more damage to the "community" then all of those efforts combined.
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Remember when Vtubing was about being a cute anime character and playing video games instead LARPing as a political activist and moralfaging about porn? Fun times.
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After that drama she got into with Powdur it should have been a wake-up call. She willing to cause division bc she wants what fits her narrative views and I agree. Who cares what she says about Ember all Strawb cares about is herself.
Why are you being this way Strawb?
It’s genuinely disappointing. I want to support you I genuinely do. But you keep randomly starting drama that doesn’t need to be started.
Ember has been honest about the voice changer and honest about the books.
You look at the books and you disagree with on a surface level.
There are a few easily possible reasons why Ember writes them that are entirely valid.
1. She just enjoys the transformation genre. She has every right to enjoy it. Lots of people do because they enjoy seeing hoe people handle dark situations psychologically. Thats why psychological has its own genre in media.
2. Each book is consistent with how it handles the topic - perhaps this suggests a connection to real life trauma she has put on the page. Who are you to judge that?
3. People are forced to transition irl all the time against their will, and manipulated into believing that they are. Capturing that in a book can prove to be a very valuable thought provoking process.
As for the voice changer - I have no idea if ember is a male. But using one doesn’t just automatically mean she is either. If someone isn’t comfortable with their own voice regardless of being male or female then there is nothing wrong with using one. Ember was transparent about using it from the start.
You didn’t talk to her and she has been nothing but supportive to you and Rev in the past? So why are you randomly deciding to go after her?
As far as I have been told Ember has condemned transgender activism before. I don’t know the extent of that - if it’s against the idea of transgenderism or if it’s against the people manipulating the system for profit or both.
But don’t you think that warrants a DM for clarification rather than trying to turn people against her when you haven’t even tried to clear it up first?
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But even still it’s her right to write these books.
You have a right to your opinions on them but you don’t have the right to drag her through the mud for expressing her desire to create.
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This entire situation and the comments proceeding it continues to prove my point that Vtubing has been flooded on all sides by hyper political retards that don't even actually like Vtubers. "Ooga booga dude with girl model = trans". You are just as much of a tourist as the lefty people you claim to hate.
Why? Why is Strawb choosing to do this?
What sparked this is the "revelation" that Ember uses a voice changer. Which she's been been honest about.
There's no proof that Ember is a man or trans, but even if she was why's it matter so much that she's now subject to your scrutiny?
biggest supporters of both Strawb and Rev. I doubt she'd have done anything to slight them.
Nevermind the fact that we have this whole debacle with Kirsche going on.
I suppose that was only big enough to get everyone united for 24 hours?
How annoying that is.
Putting her work on blast is a bit of a low blow, too. It's a very strange story, sure. But it's not something that was necessary to put under a spotlight for everyone to criticize.
I don't get it, man.
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Apparently, the internet retards are STILL missing the fucking point.
I NEVER said Ember was immune to criticism. The point was HOW Strawb went about it. This came across as an attack out of the blue rather than legitimate criticism.
From what I’ve seen, and by Strawb’s own admission, she had this information for a while, never bothered to address it privately with Ember, and waited until Ember was already being attacked to conveniently slide it into the conversation.
And no, this wasn’t some fucking “gay op” that Strawb unknowingly fell for. That’s the excuse people seem to be running with, but it doesn’t explain the timing, the way reviews of an old fictional story from several years ago not continued specifically stated from them, was twisted to make it look worse, or the attempt to play innocent afterward. THAT is exactly what I’m criticizing. She has done this same tactic multiple times.
We’re talking about someone who backed Strawb and Rev through a lot drama, put her own neck on the line defending them, and, as far as I’ve seen, NEVER ONCE slighted Strawb.
If Strawb genuinely had an issue with Ember, why not address it when she first learned about it? Why sit on that information? Why wait until everyone else was already piling on before deciding to bring it up?
That’s what makes this look so fucking vindictive. Someone Ember apparently believed she was on good terms with had information she could have addressed long before this, yet chose to bring it up at such a perfect time to make it look like she was just adding context.
And let’s not forget, this is coming from someone who has repeatedly demanded that her own past be treated as off-limits, that people respect her boundaries, and that she be shown understanding and compassion.
But apparently, those standards don’t extend to someone who spent a lot of time defending her.
It comes across as calculated, vindictive, and downright snake like behavior, followed by an attempt to play innocent when people start questioning the timing and methods.
THAT’S THE FUCKING POINT.
Criticism isn’t the issue. Nobody said Ember was above criticism, and nobody is demanding that Strawb blindly defend her.
The issue is the timing, the methods, the double standards, and the apparent betrayal of someone who stood by you when others wouldn’t FOR NO REASON.
If you can’t understand the difference between legitimate criticism and what looks like a conveniently timed personal attack, then you’re arguing against a point I never fucking made.
I NEVER said Ember was immune to criticism. The point was HOW Strawb went about it. This came across as an attack out of the blue rather than legitimate criticism.
From what I’ve seen, and by Strawb’s own admission, she had this information for a while, never bothered to address it privately with Ember, and waited until Ember was already being attacked to conveniently slide it into the conversation.
And no, this wasn’t some fucking “gay op” that Strawb unknowingly fell for. That’s the excuse people seem to be running with, but it doesn’t explain the timing, the way reviews of an old fictional story from several years ago not continued specifically stated from them, was twisted to make it look worse, or the attempt to play innocent afterward. THAT is exactly what I’m criticizing. She has done this same tactic multiple times.
We’re talking about someone who backed Strawb and Rev through a lot drama, put her own neck on the line defending them, and, as far as I’ve seen, NEVER ONCE slighted Strawb.
If Strawb genuinely had an issue with Ember, why not address it when she first learned about it? Why sit on that information? Why wait until everyone else was already piling on before deciding to bring it up?
That’s what makes this look so fucking vindictive. Someone Ember apparently believed she was on good terms with had information she could have addressed long before this, yet chose to bring it up at such a perfect time to make it look like she was just adding context.
And let’s not forget, this is coming from someone who has repeatedly demanded that her own past be treated as off-limits, that people respect her boundaries, and that she be shown understanding and compassion.
But apparently, those standards don’t extend to someone who spent a lot of time defending her.
It comes across as calculated, vindictive, and downright snake like behavior, followed by an attempt to play innocent when people start questioning the timing and methods.
THAT’S THE FUCKING POINT.
Criticism isn’t the issue. Nobody said Ember was above criticism, and nobody is demanding that Strawb blindly defend her.
The issue is the timing, the methods, the double standards, and the apparent betrayal of someone who stood by you when others wouldn’t FOR NO REASON.
If you can’t understand the difference between legitimate criticism and what looks like a conveniently timed personal attack, then you’re arguing against a point I never fucking made.
What makes this Darling Strawb and Ember Paradox situation so incredibly fucked up is that Ember backed Strawb 100% throughout ALL the drama Strawb and Rev have ever been involved in.
Ember put her own neck on the line defending Strawb, stood by her when others were attacking her, and, as far as I've seen, NEVER ONCE slighted Strawb.
And how does Strawb repay that support? By seemingly coming out of nowhere to attack Ember over old fictional writing and assumptions about her gender?
And even if those assumptions are true, THAT'S NOT THE FUCKING POINT.
Here's someone who stood by you, defended you, and put her own reputation on the line for you. Someone who, to my knowledge, never stabbed you in the back, never publicly attacked you, and never gave you a reason to treat her like this.
Meanwhile, Strawb has repeatedly made it clear that her own past is off-limits, that people shouldn't weaponize it against her, and that her personal boundaries deserve respect.
And that's not even getting into the whole "being Christ-like" thing, because at this point, that seems more like a convenient excuse than a principle she's actually willing to follow.
But apparently Ember doesn't deserve that same consideration?
You don't get to demand understanding, compassion, and respect for your own past while digging through the past of someone who supported you 100% just to find something to attack.
And if you're going to preach about being Christ-like, perhaps start by showing some of that same grace and compassion to the people who stood beside you when you needed them.
Supporting someone doesn't make them immune to criticism, but if Ember actually wronged Strawb, then SHOW US WHAT SHE DID.
Because from where I'm standing, this looks like someone turning on a loyal supporter who put her own neck on the line for them because Ember failed one of Strawbs Purity tests. and whats funny is Strawb had a more Degenerate past then Ember did miss piss queen.
And that's what makes this so fucking pathetic. Ember stood by Strawb through any of the situation and everything else involving Strawb and Rev, and now Strawb appears perfectly willing to throw Ember under the bus over things that have nothing to do with how Ember treated her.
Think about that. Someone who defended you through controversy after controversy, who stood by you when others wouldn't, and who never once publicly slighted you, is now the person you're going after.
What happened to loyalty? What happened to compassion? What happened to treating others the way you demand to be treated?
Double standards aren't standards. They're hypocrisy. And loyalty apparently means jack shit when it's no longer convenient.
Iv said it Many times now, BOTH Strawb and Rev are snakes, don't trust them unless you want bit also.
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So wait... is he implying that Vtubing is for women only or is a space for women? It's predominantly women yes but with that logic are babinikus bad? Is it a crime to use voice changers for any reason now? And could one consider Rev to be a babiniku too given he uses a female avatar but has never identified as being female in real life?
That's the problem with the type of christian Strawb is acting like. Why is it okay for her husband to use a loli avatar, but the moment she suspects someone to be a man its suddenly not okay? Should men stick with using male avatars and women use female avatars only? Cause that's what these purity types seem to be wanting to push
That's the problem with the type of christian Strawb is acting like. Why is it okay for her husband to use a loli avatar, but the moment she suspects someone to be a man its suddenly not okay? Should men stick with using male avatars and women use female avatars only? Cause that's what these purity types seem to be wanting to push
(Clip 1) First Rev attempts to dodge addressing the controversy.
(Clip 2) Then Rev makes a dismissive comment:
"...when a biological man presents themselves as a woman and joins in on private spaces for women only while preaching against that sort of thing that is bad."
Does f? 🤔 He has effectively condoned his wife's behavior while arguing that he himself shouldn't be in 'the space'.
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Tell Darling Strawb anything and she'll leak it.
She leaked the Ember stuff and she leaked conversations with friends of friends with Ember.
What a good friend!
She leaked the Ember stuff and she leaked conversations with friends of friends with Ember.
What a good friend!
The only thing the @ember_paradox situation has shown me is that strawb is someone who cannot be trusted with any personal information if you are on friendly terms with her. Embers identity mattered not nor did the content that was made a decade ago, she decided that handling what should have been a private conversation out in the open for all to see was beneficial to her and that's all i can glean from this given she allegedly has been sitting on this information. If she has other reasons besides selfishness for what she did that i would love to hear it but so far i have heard none. If anyone else does then my DM's are open, otherwise all i see here is someone selfishly throwing someone else under the bus for seemingly no reason other then the fact that she did not like some of embers decade old content. Petty as fuck if you ask me.
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This is gonna be extremely important for people to understand when dealing with this person.
They side with a known group of "MAPs" who were trying to take kids from a group of other "MAPs"
I called them all predators and convinced the kids to go talk to their parents and tell them about what these disgusting creeps were doing to them online.
They have been malding about me ever since and come up with all kinds of insane excuses for why it was bad for me to convince victims of predators to get off the internet and talk to their parents and loved ones.
You are disgusting people and anyone who is open friends with you is suspect and cannot be trusted.
They side with a known group of "MAPs" who were trying to take kids from a group of other "MAPs"
I called them all predators and convinced the kids to go talk to their parents and tell them about what these disgusting creeps were doing to them online.
They have been malding about me ever since and come up with all kinds of insane excuses for why it was bad for me to convince victims of predators to get off the internet and talk to their parents and loved ones.
You are disgusting people and anyone who is open friends with you is suspect and cannot be trusted.
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I never wanted to date you, you made a remark about you giving me a green card, I took that as a joke, but guess maybe that was not so much as a joke after all!
Also funny how you used to chat me up in the DM's so much, then stopped after you got a boyfriend....
Just funny a she was a 8/10 in my DM's!
Interested if you ask me!
But you go back to treating ur discord server like a dating server begging guys to go into VC with you.... Like me!
Also funny how you used to chat me up in the DM's so much, then stopped after you got a boyfriend....
Just funny a she was a 8/10 in my DM's!
Interested if you ask me!
But you go back to treating ur discord server like a dating server begging guys to go into VC with you.... Like me!
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It is wild how many people still trust and follow South Asian ultra-nationalist accounts. Just like the majority of what they post, this story is completely made-up.
#BREAKING: Turkish and Pakistani intelligence sweeping teams caught a bugging device before the start of meeting between Iran and Mecca pact members in Tehran.
The listening device of unknown origin was safely removed and the meeting started as planned.
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Indeed there is more evidence of a genocide in Gaza than there is for the holocaust.
Dr. Hans-Hermann Hoppe criticizes any comparison between Gaza and the Holocaust, citing the lack of forensic evidence and the nature of the Nuremberg trials in contrast to the videos of Israeli criminality.
“Nothing like this happened in WWI.
Nothing like this happened in WWII.”
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